I agree with miss fluffy, no one of you could ever understand what a homosexual goes through.
I take it for granted that there are people at this forum who struggle with homosexual impulses. Everyone should; it's not as if those impulses are rare.
Its easy for people to say its morally wrong yada yada, but like Camp said its a cross they carry. I am not condoning the act, but what one does not know one should hold ones tongue. I know a few of them some who are more liberal than others. I would assume that many on the forum assume that gay men for example are all feminine, but the fact of the matter is there are many whom are just as masculine as any heterosexual male. I am blessed with empathy and what those tormented souls go through I would wish on no one.
Dealing with individuals is one thing, and dealing with "the homosexual movement" is another. I have great empathy for the former, but none for the latter. As to "feminine" behaviors, some men are more "feminine" and some women are more "masculine." People should not try to stuff others so tightly into boxes, in my opinion.
As mentioned earlier charity and prayer is what is needed. To plainly put it gay sex is comfort sex. Many of them look for that love that they cannot grasp, that's the same problem a prostitute goes through. Many times this is based on rejection by ones peers, and they look for those who are as tormented or misguided as they are. How can we expect for a tormented soul to change if all we do is continually do is throw stones.
I think it is those who are part of the homosexual movement that throw stones. On the other hand, there could be greater empathy and patience for individuals on the part of those who aren't a part of that movement or who don't suffer from those impulses, and a greater willingness to refrain from making assumptions about people (for ex., a man who likes to shop just "has" to be homosexual, right? And if he suffers from those impulses, he MUST be acting on them!" People need to chill out with judgments like that.)
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. If we the church pushed ourselves we could help them. Dominus tecum, I noticed in your post your level of empathy is at a low. I pose to you, and all others who may come across this thread that you try and put yourself in their shoes. Would you want the constant damning to hell or would you want charity offered to you. Seriously many of them do not want to be that way, but it happens. To say they should seek psycho therapy is to assume that they have that kind of money to spare. Free therapy usually goes along the lines of everyone being all lovey dovey, and coming to terms with who you are etc., basically its conditioning. These therapies do not always work ie alcoholics anonymous, you're not guaranteed a cure.
They'll have a hard time seeking therapy since the homosexual movement ensured that "homosexuality" was removed from the DSM. See the problem?
Blaming it on nuclear families is ludicrous, because many a time homosexuals are birthed in "perfect" 2 parent households.
I didn't see anyone blaming it on nuclear families, but the fact is that, whether they have one parent or two, there is quite often a typical family dynamic in place: strong mother, and passive, physically/emotionally absent father. It's not always like this, but it is typical. Take a naturally sensitive boy and put him in a situation like that, and you will likely have problems.
Chastity is the best possible option for them in this case that it is not able to be remedied. Demonology places Asmodeus as the cause for male homosexuality, consequently he's the demon in the book of Tobit. Unless people are planning to put all homosexuals in quarantine and start doing a mass exorcism, I doubt that'll happen.
? You are coming out of left field, man.
No one will ever know why homosexuality occurs, but to point and criticize is not the way to go. I am in no way condoning the act, but the point is no one will ever understand their crosses in this life. There are those who embrace it like those of Sodom and Gomorrah, but there are also those who do not want to be that way and struggle with it. Its a touchy subject, but I believe the church could do more instead of treating them like lepers.
The Church treats them like lepers? That's about hilarious... The real problem is that homosexuality has been politicized: it's no longer seen as a matter of some people having struggles and personalities that don't fit the norm (and there is no doubt in my mind that people need to be more accepting of others who are a bit unique; the 1950s were way, way too stifling in this regard).. Now, however, we are being forced to believe that homosexuality is purely genetic, can't be helped, and that we'd all better start wearing rainbow sashes, pushing for declassifying active homosexuality as a sin, and sit around and do nothing while marriage itself is mocked. That sort of political action ticks people off, so if people are angry at the homosexual movement and those who cheer it on, there is good reason for it.
Come on now they're showing charity to the heretics and all other abominations, why not show them some level of charity. One does not have to accept the act in order to show them charity,as Camp mentioned prayer is necessary. The question then becomes will you become some bigot incapable of showing some level of charity or will you step up and do something to heal the wounds. Seriously I'm tired of hearing the responses that this is only a forum for us to voice ourselves blah blah blah, because then one is only left to assume the type of person you may be in our society. Some of us come off as pious people, some as penitents, but some of us on the board come off as Nazis with Napoleon complexes, compensating for power we wish we had over other people. I ask pardon of those on the board who are not like this, and of those whom may misinterpret my post and read into it searching for an argument.
I am just not seeing where you are getting all this...