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ThomasJames

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« on: August 10, 2008, 09:44:pm »

Hello, I'm new to this site though I've been reading the posts of this forum for some time now. I have a question. I just recently discovered that a church I attended Mass at a few months ago is a CMRI church and after looking up their website I learned they are sedevacantists. Does this mean this church is not in communion with Rome, and are their Masses valid? Sorry if this is posted in the wrong area.


gjwalberg

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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2008, 09:51:pm »
They are valid Masses.

I'll follow up with a PM because it's best to walk on eggshells when it come to sede-ism.

donumabdeo

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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2008, 10:13:pm »

The CMRI is wonderful.  If you want information, just call the parish number.
Pray the Rosary, secure your salvation.

http://www.talmudunmasked.com/index.htm - Father I. B. Pranaitis, this section is specifically of interest: http://www.talmudunmasked.com/chapter15.htm

The Alta Vendita - Ordered to be published by Leo XIII - http://www.tanbooks.com/index.php/page/shop:flypage/product_id/547/

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion - Believed to be valid by Cardinal Caro Rodriguez (circa 1925) - http://www.iamthewitness.com/Protocols-of-Zion.htm

I suggest others to read: Msgr. Dillon in his work: Grand Orient Freemasonry as the Secret Power Behind Communism.  - http://tinyurl.com/6gurl2  (entire e-book!)

Encyclicals : Humanum Genus, Inimica Vis, and Custodi di Quella Fede

The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled by Cardinal Caro Rodriguez  - http://www.angeluspress.org/oscatalog/item/7056/mystery-of-freemasonry-unveiled

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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2008, 10:35:pm »

Quote from: donumabdeo

The CMRI is wonderful. If you want information, just call the parish number.

What is different about the way Mass is celebrated in the CMRI as opposed to SSPX? We have a Priest come to my town from the CMRI once a month and I would like to go that way I could get two TLM's a month istead of just the one.


donumabdeo

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2008, 10:50:pm »
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Quote from: donumabdeo
The CMRI is wonderful. If you want information, just call the parish number.

What is different about the way Mass is celebrated in the CMRI as opposed to SSPX? We have a Priest come to my town from the CMRI once a month and I would like to go that way I could get two TLM's a month istead of just the one.


The differences between the Missal of 1955 and of 1962 are hardly noticeable by the untrained eye.  I personally would not be able to recognize the distinctions from the pew.  One difference is that St. Joseph is named in the canon of the 62'.
Pray the Rosary, secure your salvation.

http://www.talmudunmasked.com/index.htm - Father I. B. Pranaitis, this section is specifically of interest: http://www.talmudunmasked.com/chapter15.htm

The Alta Vendita - Ordered to be published by Leo XIII - http://www.tanbooks.com/index.php/page/shop:flypage/product_id/547/

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion - Believed to be valid by Cardinal Caro Rodriguez (circa 1925) - http://www.iamthewitness.com/Protocols-of-Zion.htm

I suggest others to read: Msgr. Dillon in his work: Grand Orient Freemasonry as the Secret Power Behind Communism.  - http://tinyurl.com/6gurl2  (entire e-book!)

Encyclicals : Humanum Genus, Inimica Vis, and Custodi di Quella Fede

The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled by Cardinal Caro Rodriguez  - http://www.angeluspress.org/oscatalog/item/7056/mystery-of-freemasonry-unveiled

Qui habet aures audiendi, audiat.


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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2008, 01:34:am »
Quote from: Baskerville

Quote from: donumabdeo

The CMRI is wonderful. If you want information, just call the parish number.

What is different about the way Mass is celebrated in the CMRI as opposed to SSPX? We have a Priest come to my town from the CMRI once a month and I would like to go that way I could get two TLM's a month istead of just the one.



From what I've heard, the CMRI spends less time addressing "Church politics" from the pulpit as they do on how to live a holy life as a Catholic.  I admire this since I often disagree with what I've heard from SSPX priests or other independent clergy concerning the current crisis in the Church.

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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2008, 05:45:am »

Quote from: neel

From what I've heard, the CMRI spends less time addressing "Church politics" from the pulpit as they do on how to live a holy life as a Catholic. I admire this since I often disagree with what I've heard from SSPX priests or other independent clergy concerning the current crisis in the Church.

I attend a CMRI Mass twice monthly, and this sums it up quite nicely.  They are good and holy priests that care more for the salvation of souls than arguing politics - at least from the pulpit.

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Lynn1959

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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2008, 08:18:am »
Quote from: NorthernTrad

Quote from: neel

From what I've heard, the CMRI spends less time addressing "Church politics" from the pulpit as they do on how to live a holy life as a Catholic. I admire this since I often disagree with what I've heard from SSPX priests or other independent clergy concerning the current crisis in the Church.

I attend a CMRI Mass twice monthly, and this sums it up quite nicely.  They are good and holy priests that care more for the salvation of souls than arguing politics - at least from the pulpit.


Some of the older CMRI priests were formerly involved with the ORCM back in the 1970s. I can personally attest that those priests cared more for spirituality than politics, so you are right.
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2008, 09:52:am »
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Quote from: NorthernTrad

Quote from: neel

From what I've heard, the CMRI spends less time addressing "Church politics" from the pulpit as they do on how to live a holy life as a Catholic. I admire this since I often disagree with what I've heard from SSPX priests or other independent clergy concerning the current crisis in the Church.

I attend a CMRI Mass twice monthly, and this sums it up quite nicely.  They are good and holy priests that care more for the salvation of souls than arguing politics - at least from the pulpit.


Some of the older CMRI priests were formerly involved with the ORCM back in the 1970s. I can personally attest that those priests cared more for spirituality than politics, so you are right.

If by "Church Politics" you mean "Vicar of Christ", then yes.  Y'all are right.  They don't care about "Church Politics". 

Similarly, Episcopalians don't care about "Church Politics". 

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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2008, 10:10:am »
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Does this mean this church is not in communion with Rome, and are their Masses valid? [empahsis added]

Interesting way of putting the question.  The SSPX position, as I understand it, is that the language of "in communion" is Conciliar-speak. The SSPX are opposed to sedevacantism.  I'm not sure exactly how they would describe the CMRI's relationship with Rome.  I'd be interested to hear.