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whats the difference between high and low mass
« on: August 25, 2009, 01:27:pm »
What is the actual differences between a high mass, low mass and solemn mass?

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Re: whats the difference between high and low mass
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 02:49:pm »
What is the actual differences between a high mass, low mass and solemn mass?

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Re: whats the difference between high and low mass
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 09:40:pm »
What is the actual differences between a high mass, low mass and solemn mass?

I am sure that there are others who can explain this much better than I can, but here is my brief explanation.

Low Mass - The texts of the Mass are read, not chanted or sung.
High Mass - Various parts of the Mass are chanted or sung and incense may be used.
Solemn High Mass - The deacon and subdeacon do various things in the sanctuary, various parts of the Mass are chanted or sung, and incense is used.
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Re: whats the difference between high and low mass
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 11:45:pm »
The technical terms are:

"Low Mass": Missa Privata or Missa Recitiva -- that is a "Private Mass" or a "Recited Mass"

"High Mass": Missa Cantata -- that is a "Sung Mass"

"Solemn Mass": Missa Solemnis

I prefer to use the terms: Recited Mass, Sung Mass and Solemn Mass. The " High/Low" difference is not always accurate, and there are plenty of variations on this.

At a Solemn Mass the Priest sings much of the Mass, with the Deacon and Sub-deacon assisting (particularly in singing the Gospel and Epistle). The Deacon assists the priest at the altar and sings the Ite Missa Est. The subdeacon helps set up the altar as well as singing the Epistle. The Faithful sing the Ordinary of the Mass. The choir (schola) sings the Propers.

At a Sung Mass the Priest sings the same parts of the Mass as at a Solemn Mass, but he also assumes the parts of the Deacon and Subdeacon, since these do not assist him. The Faithful and Choir do the same as at a Solemn Mass.

At a Recited Mass, the Priests recited all parts that he would have sung before. The Faithful may recite parts of the Mass they would have sung at a Sung or Solemn Mass. The choir may sing Latin or vernacular hymns as Processional, Recessional, at the Offertory and during Communion, but are not permitted to sing over the priest while he is reciting the Mass.

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Re: whats the difference between high and low mass
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2009, 02:28:pm »
At a Recited Mass, the Priests recited all parts that he would have sung before. The Faithful may recite parts of the Mass they would have sung at a Sung or Solemn Mass. The choir may sing Latin or vernacular hymns as Processional, Recessional, at the Offertory and during Communion, but are not permitted to sing over the priest while he is reciting the Mass.

What is your opinion on things like the French Organ Mass (where the organist plays all throughout the Recited Mass) or the Deutche Singmesse (where the congregation sings vernacular paraphrase hymns of the Ordinary texts while the priest recites them)?
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Re: whats the difference between high and low mass
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 02:36:pm »
What is the actual differences between a high mass, low mass and solemn mass?

The number of altar candles... lit, anyway.   ;)
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Re: whats the difference between high and low mass
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 02:54:pm »
High Mass is sung, Low Mass is not (so its a bit quicker)

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Re: whats the difference between high and low mass
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 05:58:pm »
Singing. BTW - The High Mass is the normative Mass of the Latin Rite.
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Re: whats the difference between high and low mass
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2009, 04:07:am »
Just to add a dumb comment, as someone raised with the NOM, one of the main differences for me was that in a high Mass the congregation actually responded aloud, which was much easier for me to adjust to than the silent but equally real participation that we take in a low Mass. It's ironic in a way, but I remember thinking during my first high Mass "oh I can do this, this is pretty much the same as what I do every Sunday" (no snide comments please) whereas during my first few low Masses I was thinking "so what are we in the pews here for, reading books and saying our own prayers while the priest goes through it alone?"  :doh:

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Re: whats the difference between high and low mass
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2009, 07:29:pm »
Singing. BTW - The High Mass is the normative Mass of the Latin Rite.

This is why I try to avoid the term "High Mass". Many people think a "High Mass" is the form of Mass with the priest at the altar and singing. "High Mass" can mean this, but it is often used to mean a Solemn Mass as well.

To be clear: It is not the Sung Mass, but the Solemn Mass which is the normative form of the Mass in the Extraordinary Form.

The Solemn Mass is a Mass with Priest, Deacon and Subdeacon at the altar and a Liturgical Choir singing the full Gregorian propers with the Faithful singing the Ordinary. It is the form upon which all the other forms are based.

This form is a derivative of the Pontifical form, minus the Episcopal privileges.

The Sung Mass and Recited ("Low") Mass are simply derivatives of the Solemn Form.