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Our Lady of Fatima and WWII
« on: March 03, 2011, 06:28:am »
I remember reading that Our Lady of Fatima told the children that the war (WWI) would end soon, but if people did not stop offending God, a worse war would break out in the reign of Pope Pius XI.

Tonight I looked up Pope Pius XI on Wikipedia and saw that he died in February 1939. WWII started in September 1939. Was Our Lady referring to the conflicts before WWII as well?

Any help here would be good.

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Re: Our Lady of Fatima and WWII
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 06:56:am »
Well, I think the Japanese aggression in the East had already started a while before WWII actually began in Europe. 

And sometimes, the Japanese outdid the Nazis in wartime atrocities.

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Re: Our Lady of Fatima and WWII
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 08:20:am »
WWII actually "started" with the militarization of the Rhineland, against the Treat of Versaille. 

You also have the invasion of Czechoslovakia, which occurred prior to the formal declaration.  I believe it was in 1938 that Hitler reported seeing the strange light (a very powerful Aurora) in the sky that was predicted by Mary for the start of the war.

I don't recall when Japan began warring with China.
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Re: Our Lady of Fatima and WWII
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 08:24:am »
WWII actually "started" with the militarization of the Rhineland, against the Treat of Versaille. 

You also have the invasion of Czechoslovakia, which occurred prior to the formal declaration.  I believe it was in 1938 that Hitler reported seeing the strange light (a very powerful Aurora) in the sky that was predicted by Mary for the start of the war.

I don't recall when Japan began warring with China.

I think it was the mid to late 30's, but prior to 1939.

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Re: Our Lady of Fatima and WWII
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 09:44:am »
I believe it was in 1938 that Hitler reported seeing the strange light (a very powerful Aurora) in the sky that was predicted by Mary for the start of the war.

January 25, 1938 - 2nd prophesy of Fatima
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When you see a night illumined by an unknown light*, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father.

http://www.pdtsigns.com/1938aurora.html


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Re: Our Lady of Fatima and WWII
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 02:57:pm »
I remember reading that Our Lady of Fatima told the children that the war (WWI) would end soon, but if people did not stop offending God, a worse war would break out in the reign of Pope Pius XI.

Tonight I looked up Pope Pius XI on Wikipedia and saw that he died in February 1939. WWII started in September 1939. Was Our Lady referring to the conflicts before WWII as well?

Any help here would be good.

The Japanese and Soviets fought a division level 'border war' starting in July of '38. Not a skirmish, since both sides lost between 20,000 and 30,000 KIA and MIA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_Border_Wars:

There was also a smaller Sino-Soviet war in '29:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_conflict_(1929)

Plus the Spanish Civil War was from 17 July '36 to 1 April '39:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 03:31:pm »
Most people consider World War II to have started with the German invasion of Poland. I personally consider it to have started with the "Marco Polo Bridge Incident" between China and Japan. That was on July 7, 1937.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 03:34:pm »
Most people consider World War II to have started with the German invasion of Poland. I personally consider it to have started with the "Marco Polo Bridge Incident" between China and Japan. That was on July 7, 1937.

Good point, tho' I have heard many people use the Spanish Civil War as a starting point. At any rate, WW II was going, one way or the other, in the Reign of Pius XI.
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Re: Our Lady of Fatima and WWII
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 04:53:pm »
I believe it was in 1938 that Hitler reported seeing the strange light (a very powerful Aurora) in the sky that was predicted by Mary for the start of the war.

January 25, 1938 - 2nd prophesy of Fatima
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When you see a night illumined by an unknown light*, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father.

http://www.pdtsigns.com/1938aurora.html

Wow!  Blessed be Our Lady!  (I haven't read about Fatima in a long time...)  :pray:
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