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http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE51Q2J720090227?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0 Vatican rejects Holocaust-denying bishop's apologyFri Feb 27, 2009 12:09pm EST VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican on Friday rejected an apology from a bishop whose denial of the Holocaust caused international uproar between Jews and Catholics, saying it did not meet its demand for a full and public recanting.
British Bishop Richard Williamson, who was ordered to leave Argentina and is now in his homeland, on Thursday issued a statement in which he said, "To all souls that took honest scandal from what I said, before God I apologize."
But chief Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said Williamson's statement "does not seem to respect the conditions" set forth by the Vatican on February 4, when it ordered him to "in an absolutely unequivocal and public way distance himself from his positions" regarding the Holocaust.
On January 24, Pope Benedict lifted the excommunications of Williamson and three other bishops to try to heal a 20-year-old schism that began when they were thrown out of the Church for being ordained without the permission of Pope John Paul II.
Among those who condemned Williamson and the pope's decision were Holocaust survivors, progressive Catholics, members of the U.S. Congress, Israel's Chief Rabbinate, German Jewish leaders and Jewish writer and Nobel Peace Prize winner Elie Wiesel.
Williamson told Swedish television in an interview broadcast on January 21, "I believe there were no gas chambers." He said no more than 300,000 Jews perished in Nazi concentration camps, rather than the 6 million accepted by mainstream historians.
In his statement on Thursday, Williamson said, "I can truthfully say that I regret having made such remarks, and that if I had known beforehand the full harm and hurt to which they would give rise, especially to the Church, but also to survivors and relatives of victims of injustice under the Third Reich, I would not have made them."
JEWS SAY APOLOGY 'EMPTY'
Even before the Vatican issued its statement rejecting Williamson's statement as unsatisfactory, Jewish groups branded his apology as shallow and empty.
"As he clearly failed to retract his malicious lies, Williamson has again shown that he is a staunch anti-Semite and incorrigible Holocaust denier who doubts the genocide of six million Jewish people," said Charlotte Knobloch, President of the Central Council of Jews in Germany.
Williamson made his comments denying the Holocaust in Germany, where such comments are a crime.
"Williamson's disingenuous apology cannot close the book on this chapter," said Menachem Rosensaft, founding chairman of the International Network of Children of Jewish Holocaust Survivors.
"Williamson in no way recanted his denial of the Holocaust. Instead, he merely expressed regret that his public expression of his noxious views called attention to Pope Benedict XVI's ill-conceived attempt to rehabilitate him and other members of the anti-Semitic Society of Saint Pius X," said Rosensaft, who is the son of two survivors of Nazi death camps.
Williamson arrived in Britain earlier this week after he was ordered to leave Argentina, where he was the director of a seminary of the ultra-traditionalist Society of St. Pius X.

The controversy over Williamson's comments and the pope's decision to lift his excommunication led to the worst crisis in Catholic-Jewish relations in half a century.
On February 12 the pope, in an attempt to defuse the crisis, told Jewish leaders that "any denial or minimization of this terrible crime is intolerable," especially if it comes from a clergyman.
The row over Williamson has led many to take a closer look at the SSPX, its view of Jews and its future in the Church.
The Vatican says that before the SSPX can be fully readmitted into the Church, its leaders and members must first accept the teachings of the 1962-1965 Second Vatican Council, which urged respect for Judaism and other religions.
One of its key documents, "Nostra Aetate" (In Our Times), repudiated the concept of collective Jewish guilt for Christ's death.
is this official? before i say God awful things i need to know if this is official?

I have a feeling that this may be blowing up in the faces of those prosecuting this crusade against His Excellency:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/02/27...alcomments

If you look at the most popular comment on this story, it's a defense of Bishop Williamson!

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he shouldn't have even apologized. that was going too far. he has the right to believe or question anything he wants. vatican is buckling under pressure of tyrants!"

Reasonable people can see how totally absurd the treatment of him has been. Undoubtedly, he's gained immense sympathy for his position and not a few personal admirers.

devotedknuckles Wrote:is this official? before i say God awful things i need to know if this is official?

No.

Fr. Lombardi simply made the observation that he hadn't retracted his comments, and therefore could not be restored to episcopal ministry.


The Vatican didn't say it, and it wasn't a "rejection".
QuisUtDeus Wrote:But chief Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said Williamson's statement "does not seem to respect the conditions" set forth by the Vatican on February 4, when it ordered him to "in an absolutely unequivocal and public way distance himself from his positions" regarding the Holocaust.
The headline is misleading. Jesuit Lombardi observes that +Williamson's statement does not comply with the vague, unsigned NOTE. So what? Ecclesia Dei released +Williamson's letter without comment and the SSPX is obviously backing up H.E.

www.dici.org

Bishop Williamson has won this round.
Dauphin Wrote:
I have a feeling that this may be blowing up in the faces of those prosecuting this crusade against His Excellency:
Agreed. This is exactly what happened with the release of Gibson's The Passion of the Christ. The cattle are ready to stampede. If Bb. Williamson went on a speaking tour now, he could draw millions to the Faith (and make million$).
Dauphin Wrote:I have a feeling that this may be blowing up in the faces of those prosecuting this crusade against His Excellency:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/02/27...alcomments

If you look at the most popular comment on this story, it's a defense of Bishop Williamson!

"
he shouldn't have even apologized. that was going too far. he has the right to believe or question anything he wants. vatican is buckling under pressure of tyrants!"

Reasonable people can see how totally absurd the treatment of him has been. Undoubtedly, he's gained immense sympathy for his position and not a few personal admirers.

Anything from CBC or its viewers is suspect, given their "love" of all things Catholic.
Williamson didn't really apologise. He might feel the heat from ruffling feathers. That's not contrition, in any respect.
OKinyobe Wrote:
Dauphin Wrote:I have a feeling that this may be blowing up in the faces of those prosecuting this crusade against His Excellency:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/02/27...alcomments

If you look at the most popular comment on this story, it's a defense of Bishop Williamson!

"
he shouldn't have even apologized. that was going too far. he has the right to believe or question anything he wants. vatican is buckling under pressure of tyrants!"

Reasonable people can see how totally absurd the treatment of him has been. Undoubtedly, he's gained immense sympathy for his position and not a few personal admirers.

Anything from CBC or its viewers is suspect, given their "love" of all things Catholic.

That's what makes it so remarkable. Even people with no love for the Catholic Church are realizing how ridiculous this whole thing is.
columba Wrote:
QuisUtDeus Wrote:But chief Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said Williamson's statement "does not seem to respect the conditions" set forth by the Vatican on February 4, when it ordered him to "in an absolutely unequivocal and public way distance himself from his positions" regarding the Holocaust.
The headline is misleading. Jesuit Lombardi observes that +Williamson's statement does not comply with the vague, unsigned NOTE. So what? Ecclesia Dei released +Williamson's letter without comment and the SSPX is obviously backing up H.E.

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Bishop Williamson has won this round.


Now the world is believing that the opinion of one man is now the official stance of the Vatican because of media manipulation.

This is why we need a Bishop like Bp. Williamson.  He teaches us to seek the full truth and not be manipulated into believing 2+2=5 which is exactly what the media is doing.

I am really getting furious at this storm and think we Catholics must unite against this outrageous manipulation of words and opinions intended to malign the truth.  This incident has really shown those of us familiar with the situation just how diabolical the forces at work are using the media.

Get thee behind me, Satan!

May Christ have mercy on the world and pull the veil from our eyes so that we are not led into believing lies.  "If you do not love the truth, I shall send you the error to believe lying."  That is one of the most frightening things Our Lord said.

Good comments Dauphin and Rita,
 
The liberal element of the church is not going to "roll over and give up". Of course, neither is the traditional element. If fact I totally distance myself from the liberals.
 
I'm afraid that the Battle is Joined. Let all good Catholics stand up for the Truth.
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