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I was looking up Yuri for the "Errors in Russia" thread and found this video.  I think it is important enough to have it's own thread.

  Pay close attention at around 4 minutes.  I know from my own experience that during the 70s and 80s there were many front groups and many conferences that Catholic educators were attending.  I imagine that many priest and religious also attended these conferences and courses, as well as read the material.  This is why Obama has so much support from the Catholic Hierarchy in the USA. 

Whenever some "soft headed American" (as the KGB refers to them) parrots: There's no difference between the US and Russia, there's no difference between communism and capitalsim", you can imagine some KGB dude cheering somewhere "Success".

Here's a former KGB propagandist telling you.  It was their job to get people to start thinking this way.  He estimated that 85% of their resources was devoted to it.  So even if the KGB is now defunct and Russia in no longer trying to destabilize the USA (both are debatable), we still have these brain washed dolts occupying government positions and infesting our schools and churches.  It will take another generation until they die off.
(08-20-2009, 01:54 PM)James02 Wrote: [ -> ]There's no difference between the US and Russia, there's no difference between communism and capitalsim", you can imagine some KGB dude cheering somewhere "Success".

Both are about centralized control by a few.who do you think financed marx? Who gave uis the Federal Rserve system???Who financed lenin?? Answer to all 3-rich capitalists on Wall street and Britain.........really, james02, this is insulting-to shut down a honest discussion you trust the word of a KGB agent(taught to lie and likely unaware of his bosses bosses) to smear anti-Capitalists......so, what.wink/nod, Distributist are all of a sudden Commies?? Either A or B, taht is it---this is Prot thinking "either you beleive in the Bible or Mary", only a or b is prot thinking, though as Capitalism flourished with Calvinists, who beleived that the more successful you were, the more you are one of the few "elect" and could run everyone else into the ground....See the Dr. Rao article I noted, is is very critical of NewChurch and Americanism (which BTW is girded to Capitalism) and notes that Catholic embracing so-call Capitalism are just adhering to a Prot/Enlightened idea.....

this is rather low, smear James02!

BTW, waht is the difference between teh state owning everything and the few Capitalists? Nothing, nada......one might be a tad "freer", in that you can own a few TV's and a huge wardrobe, but you are still not free, you might think you are, might tell yourself you are...but when someone controls your pay, where you live, what you can do with your property (if you have any anymore) and where you get your food (though the FDA/courts have ruled you have NO right to know where your food is from)..guess what, you are a wage slave, just as Hilaire Belloc surmised 80+ yrs ago.....I wil lstick with him and other great Catholic thinkers, quoted bot hby New Church and SSPX/Traditionalist authors over a KGB agent anytime........
Quote: Both are about centralized control by a few.
Define "few".  There are millions of business owners in the US alone.  Is this a "few"?  Your theories don't match what we see everyday.  Just open up your phone book and look up "auto repair", then confess thy folly.
Quote: who do you think financed marx? Who gave uis the Federal Rserve system???Who financed lenin?? Answer to all 3-rich capitalists on Wall street and Britain
Don't know about Marx.  Lenin was financed by Jews in the USA who hated Russia and the Tsar.  Germany helped them out to knock Russia out of WWI.  The Federal Reserve is fascist, not capitalist.  It too was created mostly by the efforts of New York Jews, esp. Baruch.  The flagship capitalist group, the Mises Institute, is most famous for its opposition to the Fed.  Heck, Rothbard wrote a few books about how evil the Fed is.
Quote: .........really, james02, this is insulting-to shut down a honest discussion
Which discussion are you referencing.  You are famous for throwing darts then high tailing it out.
Quote: you trust the word of a KGB agent(taught to lie and likely unaware of his bosses bosses) to smear anti-Capitalists......
So in order to cling to your fantasies, you have to believe this man is lying.  However, everything he describes matches up with what many of us experienced, especially those attending school in the 70s and 80s.  There is a big difference between parroting "America and Russia are the same".  "Communism and Capitalism are the same", and pointing out, in detail, problems with America.  The first is due to subversion, and we have the testimony of a former KGB agent to prove it.  The latter might include opposing the US involvement in the Middle East, pointing out that it is due to heavy Israeli influence.  It is easy to spot the difference.  One group parrots sophisms, the other group gives detailed criticisms.
Quote:this is rather low, smear James02!
Truth hurts.  Oh, and Dorothy Day, in your signature line, was a traitor and stabbed a brother Catholic, President Diem, in the back.  Day is a perfect example of how the errors of Russia infiltrated the Church.  She was brought up in her early career as a revolutionary influenced by KGB (NKVD?) supported organizations such as the socialist newspapers, all in ground zero of the commies, 20's and 30's Brooklyn.  She leaves and converts, and she really does convert.  But the KGB tactic of subversion pays off well for them as she as already brainwashed.  Later she goes against Diem and claims that the US is only interested in exploiting Vietnam.

So who do you believe, a good devout Traditional Catholic like Diem, who asked for help from the USA but from the beginning was a strong fighter for Vietnamese independence from France and the US, or Dorothy Day, whose philosophies were shaped by KGB front groups?  You decide.

Quote: lstick with him and other great Catholic thinkers, quoted bot hby New Church and SSPX/Traditionalist authors over a KGB agent anytime........
Unfortunately they don't have much experience with the KGB and radicals.  I guess fellow Catholic Joe McCarthy was wrong, according to you.
yes how true. dorathy day was a traitor. she was a red. it bothers me that so many think shes some kinda saint.
she was a commie through and through and the movement she founded is commie.
BAH!
i cant stand non of them.
Here's one of the magazines good old Dorothy wrote for in her early life:
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