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Quote:Anti-Christian attacks in Iraq part of brutal strategy, says archbishop

Rome, Italy, Nov 30, 2009 / 03:52 am (CNA).- Archbishop Basile Georges Casmoussa of Mosul said last week that last Thursday’s anti-Christian attacks in Iraq which destroyed a church and damaged a convent “show that there is a strategy to erase our cultural heritage and more than 2000 years of history” on the part of Muslim extremists.

In an interview with L’Osservatore Romano, the archbishop said these Islamic groups “want to destabilize the atmosphere of trust in our country. We must oppose this atmosphere of hatred with strength and with prayer,” he added.

The strategy of these groups “is clear,” the archbishop continued.  “As soon as the situation becomes calm and it appears there is a chance Christians can return to their homes in their cities, the terror and violence reappear with greater threats.”

“This is the not the first time extremist groups lashed out at the symbols of the Christian community in Iraq. And it is not the first time that priests and religious have paid with their blood,” he explained.

After recalling the March 2008 assassination of his predecessor Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho, Archbishop Casmoussa said, “It seems like nobody is able to guarantee the safety of Iraqi Christians.”

“The only path to take to placate violence is dialogue,” the archbishop continued.  “Only then will we be able to isolate these extremist groups and become a tolerant country.  Now we must seek to be close to our small community and give ourselves strength and encouragement.”

I disagree with him here: “The only path to take to placate violence is dialogue,"  :pray:
I have to wonder, seeing that many credible people estimate the number of Iraqi civilians killed since the war began to be about a million, who is trying to erase who.

Actually, I don't have to wonder.

Its hard to sympathize when the US illegally invaded the country, tortured kids in front of there parents etc.
Not that the bishop had any role in that but he'd best put some of the blame at the feet of the US troops and the Bush/Clinton administration

anyway Its probably blackwater dressed up like arabs attacking Christians to boost support for the war.
What planet r u on? Cuz its not earth.
The US did not torture kids in front of their parents. How absurd. LOL listining to twits like u one gets the idea that the mohams have never done one act of putrage. U say well it must be blackwater cuz why? Mohas havew never killed christians? Have never beheaded innocent blokes? They r after all a religion of peace. LOL
What's next from u that the pope is a cborg and blackwater is really in control?
Look the US invaded iraq. That does not give the mpohams a free ticket to murder priests and bomb churches!! They r animals attackoing the week and defensless cuz they can't fight the US and win as has been demonstrated.
Keep smokin that canadian bud ad seems to be doin u just fine
(12-01-2009, 09:49 AM)devotedknuckles Wrote: [ -> ]What planet r u on? Cuz its not earth.
The US did not torture kids in front of their parents. How absurd. LOL listining to twits like u one gets the idea that the mohams have never done one act of putrage. U say well it must be blackwater cuz why? Mohas havew never killed christians? Have never beheaded innocent blokes? They r after all a religion of peace. LOL
What's next from u that the pope is a cborg and blackwater is really in control?
Look the US invaded iraq. That does not give the mpohams a free ticket to murder priests and bomb churches!! They r animals attackoing the week and defensless cuz they can't fight the US and win as has been demonstrated.
Keep smokin that canadian bud ad seems to be doin u just fine

The best thing to do with nut jobs like "artificial person" is just ignore them. Let them walk around with their tin foil hats on waiting for the mother ship.

Shouldn't someone (like us!) be over there protecting Catholics from violence like this?
No. For the nuimbers we r talkin about the best thing to do is hep them escape help them flee. Call it a strategic retreat. Set up an org to help get them out and to fight anpother day.
This is just startin
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Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'
Photographs of alleged prisoner abuse which Barack Obama is attempting to censor include images of apparent rape and sexual abuse, it has emerged.

By Duncan Gardham, Security Correspondent and Paul Cruickshank
Published: 8:02PM BST 27 May 2009

A previous image of Iraq prison abuse
At least one picture shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner while another is said to show a male translator raping a male detainee.

Further photographs are said to depict sexual assaults on prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube.


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New outrage over Iraq prison abuse photographs
US troops could stay in Iraq for a decade Another apparently shows a female prisoner having her clothing forcibly removed to expose her breasts.

Detail of the content emerged from Major General Antonio Taguba, the former army officer who conducted an inquiry into the Abu Ghraib jail in Iraq.

Allegations of rape and abuse were included in his 2004 report but the fact there were photographs was never revealed. He has now confirmed their existence in an interview with the Daily Telegraph.

The graphic nature of some of the images may explain the US President’s attempts to block the release of an estimated 2,000 photographs from prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan despite an earlier promise to allow them to be published.

Maj Gen Taguba, who retired in January 2007, said he supported the President’s decision, adding: “These pictures show torture, abuse, rape and every indecency.

“I am not sure what purpose their release would serve other than a legal one and the consequence would be to imperil our troops, the only protectors of our foreign policy, when we most need them, and British troops who are trying to build security in Afghanistan.

“The mere description of these pictures is horrendous enough, take my word for it.”

In April, Mr Obama’s administration said the photographs would be released and it would be “pointless to appeal” against a court judgment in favour of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

But after lobbying from senior military figures, Mr Obama changed his mind saying they could put the safety of troops at risk.

Earlier this month, he said: “The most direct consequence of releasing them, I believe, would be to inflame anti-American public opinion and to put our troops in greater danger.”

It was thought the images were similar to those leaked five years ago, which showed naked and bloody prisoners being intimidated by dogs, dragged around on a leash, piled into a human pyramid and hooded and attached to wires.

Mr Obama seemed to reinforce that view by adding: “I want to emphasise that these photos that were requested in this case are not particularly sensational, especially when compared to the painful images that we remember from Abu Ghraib.”

The latest photographs relate to 400 cases of alleged abuse between 2001 and 2005 in Abu Ghraib and six other prisons. Mr Obama said the individuals involved had been “identified, and appropriate actions” taken.

Maj Gen Taguba’s internal inquiry into the abuse at Abu Ghraib, included sworn statements by 13 detainees, which, he said in the report, he found “credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses.”

Among the graphic statements, which were later released under US freedom of information laws, is that of Kasim Mehaddi Hilas in which he says: “I saw [name of a translator] ******* a kid, his age would be about 15 to 18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn’t covered and I saw [name] who was wearing the military uniform, putting his **** in the little kid’s ***…. and the female soldier was taking pictures.”

The translator was an American Egyptian who is now the subject of a civil court case in the US.

Three detainees, including the alleged victim, refer to the use of a phosphorescent tube in the sexual abuse and another to the use of wire, while the victim also refers to part of a policeman’s “stick” all of which were apparently photographed.


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The operative word here is
Alleged
Alleged does not mean happened. There is a differnce.
And where is the torture in front of families u alleged?
Besides u really belive it?
LOL
Further u alleged it was US gov policy. When it was not. Abuses happened sure but it was not policy. And really on the grand scale of what humans can do to eachother agu garib hardly registers just saying
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devotedknuckles Wrote:The US did not torture kids in front of their parents.

Taxi to the Dark Side (the full work is on YouTube as well):


Alex Jones - The Dungeon Keepers:

Jones talks about the child abuse in Iraq.

Quote:they can't fight the US and win as has been demonstrated.

The Americans sure did skedaddle at the First Battle of Fallujah.



US soldiers start crying after firefight with Taliban -


American Marines in Iraq (Warning: there is a lot of swearing in this video)-


I post the above two videos not to mock the men involved. Indeed, their tears and fear are proof of their humanity. Americans are not so war-weary that scenes of such violence do not move their souls. Praise God that America has thus far been shielded from the violence which racks other nations. That being said, enough with this chest-thumping nonsense which gives no respect to Americas enemies. For instance, eight years of calling the fighters of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan "towelheads," "ragheads," "hajjis," "sand niggers," and "terrorists" doesn't seem to have been very productive as the United States is in a terrible catch-22 in that war. The number one rule in warfare is to respect your enemy. The people, commanders and soldiers of the United States have ignored this for nigh on a decade, to their downfall.
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