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The Goal of Ecumenism

In his plenary address to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (January 15, 2010), Pope Benedict XVI affirmed that the successor of Peter is the primary guardian and defender of the sacred deposit.  His ministry towards unity involves unity of faith above all else so that there be one flock and one shepherd.  Ecumenism, in the proper sense of the term, is nothing more than the manifestation of this ministry towards unity.  In other words, the ultimate goal of ecumenism is the “full and visible communion of the disciples of the Lord”.  For Pope Benedict XVI, the Apostolic Constitution Anglicanorum Ceotibus -- far from being contrary to true ecumenism -- represents an example of its ultimate aim towards the perfection of visible Catholic unity.

Continued here: http://opuscula.blogspot.com/2010/01/goa...enism.html

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Key words, "Catholic unity".

The ecumaniac dolts, priests included, use their false notion of ecumenism to shred any vestiges of Catholicism that post-V2 liturgical practice or spiritual life may contain.

The reunification of the Church under the Pope means the Protestants and Orthodox coming back, not the True Faith dismembering itself to suit their needs.

Thank God for the Holy Father.
kgurries (schoolman), could you please repost or link the Holy Father's statements from several months back where he differentiates true ecumenism from fruitless, time wasting, dialogue? Do you recall the particular message I'm thinking of? I was searching for it on the forum the other day and came up empty.

Thanks.
Marc, I do remember reading various statements to that effect, but not sure exactly which one you refer to.  Maybe someone else here knows...
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“The ‘seeds of truth’ present and active in the various religious traditions are a reflection of the unique Word of God, who ‘enlightens every man coming into world’ (cf. Jn 1:9) and who became flesh in Christ Jesus (cf. Jn 1:14). They are together an effect of the Spirit of truth operating outside the visible confines of the Mystical Body and which “blows where it wills” (Jn 3:8). […] Every quest of the human spirit for truth and goodness, and in the last analysis for God, is inspired by the Holy Spirit. The various religions arose from this primordial human openness to God. At their origins we often find founders who, with the help of God’s Spirit, achieved a deeper religious experience. Handed on to others, this experience took form in the doctrines, rites and precepts of the various religions. […] Normally, it will be in the sincere practice of what is good in their own religious traditions and by following the dictates of their own conscience that the members of other religions respond positively to God’s invitation and receive salvation in Jesus Christ, even while they do not recognize or acknowledge him as their Savior.” - John Paul II, General Audience, Sept. 9, 1998.
(01-15-2010, 08:16 PM)DesperatelySeeking Wrote: [ -> ]Key words, "Catholic unity".

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This is the Babel translation of the pope's speech, I hope we will get an official one soon.

As for the 'Catholic unity' it is quite meaningless, since 'Catholic' means Universal = for everyone (as it is opposed to the strict nationality of the judeism)

We shall pray and work for the unity of the followers of Jesus Christ, under the Magisterium and in my reading the pope means that to. He explicitly mentions as to be united, the SSPX, the Anglicans, and emphasizes the Dignitatis Humanae, and  that  "The natural moral law is not exclusively or mostly confessional,"

In response to feedback elsewhere I have made some small additions to the original blog post.  I hope it is viewed as an improvement...

http://opuscula.blogspot.com/2010/01/goa...enism.html
(01-16-2010, 07:12 AM)Vetus Ordo Wrote: [ -> ]"[....]The various religions arose from this primordial human openness to God. At their origins we often find founders who, with the help of God’s Spirit, achieved a deeper religious experience. Handed on to others, this experience took form in the doctrines, rites and precepts of the various religions. […] Normally, it will be in the sincere practice of what is good in their own religious traditions and by following the dictates of their own conscience that the members of other religions respond positively to God’s invitation and receive salvation in Jesus Christ, even while they do not recognize or acknowledge him as their Savior.” - John Paul II, General Audience, Sept. 9, 1998.
This is blatant heresy condemned in Fr. Mueller's the Catholic Dogma, by the Syllabus of Errors, by Bl. Pius IX, and St. Pius X.
:pray: Lord have mercy upon his soul!


Quote: III. INDIFFERENTISM, LATITUDINARIANISM  [The Following statements have been condemned by Holy Catholic Church.]

15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true.—Allocution "Maxima quidem," June 9, 1862; Damnatio "Multiplices inter," June 10, 1851.

16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation.—Encyclical "Qui pluribus," Nov. 9, 1846.

17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ.—Encyclical "Quanto conficiamur," Aug. 10, 1863, etc.

18. Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion, in which form it is given to please God equally as in the Catholic Church.—Encyclical "Noscitis," Dec. 8, 1849.
(01-16-2010, 03:31 PM)Ravenonthecross Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-16-2010, 07:12 AM)Vetus Ordo Wrote: [ -> ]"[....]The various religions arose from this primordial human openness to God. At their origins we often find founders who, with the help of God’s Spirit, achieved a deeper religious experience. Handed on to others, this experience took form in the doctrines, rites and precepts of the various religions. […] Normally, it will be in the sincere practice of what is good in their own religious traditions and by following the dictates of their own conscience that the members of other religions respond positively to God’s invitation and receive salvation in Jesus Christ, even while they do not recognize or acknowledge him as their Savior.” - John Paul II, General Audience, Sept. 9, 1998.
This is blatant heresy condemned in Fr. Mueller's the Catholic Dogma, by the Syllabus of Errors, by Bl. Pius IX, and St. Pius X.
:pray: Lord have mercy upon his soul!

1./ The honest behaviour would be to quote the Syllabus

2./ Was the basic part of the Gospel of Matthew (see 16:19 and 18:18 abount the binding and loosing power of the Church) written in 36 AD and thus represents Jesus' words, or it is a redaction written in the 80's AD and thus do not represents the Christian faith?
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