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I've watched that video a couple of times that's supposed to show the violence at the Notre Dame protest, but I can't tell what's really going on. Can anyone explain it to me?


Here's another video after the arrests. The Catholics start chanting "Habemus Papam", which is pretty funny.
(02-18-2010, 03:55 PM)Satori Wrote: [ -> ]I've watched that video a couple of times that's supposed to show the violence at the Notre Dame protest, but I can't tell what's really going on. Can anyone explain it to me?

From the video, it seems that the is a group in the center are the homosexuals who start kissing after the bells start ringing.Then a couple of Catholic men rush in, and start shoving them and breaking up the kiss-in. the homosexuals scatter and the police immediately come in and  chase the Catholics. They tackle about three of the Catholic men on the ground and start arresting them.
(02-17-2010, 04:44 AM)Unum Sint Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2010, 11:15 PM)INPEFESS Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2010, 11:10 PM)Servus_Maria Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2010, 11:00 PM)James02 Wrote: [ -> ]dkpintar you are going to burn in hell unless you repent for being a sodomite.  People who play with feces are filthy sinners that commit sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance.

By the way, I noticed the proud sodomites avoided doing their kiss-in near a mosque.  Why not at a mosque?

Well we need to learn a lesson from the muslims.  Good for the French trads.  Hopefully this will escalate.

Really not helpful dude.



Not always, but sometimes the harsh reality is needed to wake people up.

I don't usually choose this model, but sometimes sweet-talking people only makes them more complacent. They need to be scared by the reality of sin and its consequences. There is a time to be gentle and a time to be fierce.

But if someone is obstinate, it is better to simply leave them alone.

I refuse to learn anything from the muhamedans and their false religion.

Okay, point taken. I shouldn't have included that part in my post.

I suppose I was responding to the tone rather than the words themselves.
(02-18-2010, 05:14 PM)INPEFESS Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-17-2010, 04:44 AM)Unum Sint Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2010, 11:15 PM)INPEFESS Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2010, 11:10 PM)Servus_Maria Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2010, 11:00 PM)James02 Wrote: [ -> ]dkpintar you are going to burn in hell unless you repent for being a sodomite.  People who play with feces are filthy sinners that commit sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance.

By the way, I noticed the proud sodomites avoided doing their kiss-in near a mosque.  Why not at a mosque?

Well we need to learn a lesson from the muslims.  Good for the French trads.  Hopefully this will escalate.

Really not helpful dude.



Not always, but sometimes the harsh reality is needed to wake people up.

I don't usually choose this model, but sometimes sweet-talking people only makes them more complacent. They need to be scared by the reality of sin and its consequences. There is a time to be gentle and a time to be fierce.

But if someone is obstinate, it is better to simply leave them alone.

I refuse to learn anything from the muhamedans and their false religion.

Okay, point taken. I shouldn't have included that part in my post.

I suppose I was responding to the tone rather than the words themselves.

My remark was not against you Impefess I am sorry if that is what you thought. But rather to qualify what James02 said because there is nothing we can learn from them as a believe system because it is false their admirable traces are only so when viewed through our Christian perspective just like the pagans they have only shadows of the Truth, may be a bit more so than the pagans, as they live after the incarnation something the pagans until 2000 years ago did not have the benefit of.

I guess I don't want to get to far off topic but to make it short what the muhamedons do that may seem like Christian courage is only but an empty shell that lacks any real substance other than the one we give it in our Christian context.
(02-18-2010, 05:28 PM)Unum Sint Wrote: [ -> ]My remark was not against you Impefess I am sorry if that is what you thought.

Yes, that is what I thought. It's okay; it was a worthy correction.
(02-17-2010, 07:42 PM)Servus_Maria Wrote: [ -> ]Whether it's nature or nurture I'm sure that most of us can agree that homosexuals don't choose to be homosexual.
Really? I think that some rather do? I think it's subtle at first, perhaps not realizing what it can lead to down the road. I think that there are any number of marginalized males that get sucked into the LGBT Clubs at school and work in an attempt to reclaim some sense of power and even legal protection against layoffs/firings/disciplines. I believe that there are men who find it easier to align themselves under the Gay umbrella than to admit that they are celebate or apathetic when it comes to sex.
(02-18-2010, 06:42 PM)DarkKnight Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-17-2010, 07:42 PM)Servus_Maria Wrote: [ -> ]Whether it's nature or nurture I'm sure that most of us can agree that homosexuals don't choose to be homosexual.
Really? I think that some rather do?

Yes, I would need some clarification:

...choose to have an attraction to the same sex, or choose to perform homosexual actions.

Many actually choose the homosexual lifestyle in reaction to some life crisis. For instance, a coworker of mine "chose" to be homosexual sometime in highschool after being raped. She has held a grudge against all men since that event. She had a very strong relationship with her mother before her mother died, and I think that her behavior is a way for her to maintain the idolization of her mother.
(02-17-2010, 07:42 PM)Servus_Maria Wrote: [ -> ]Whether it's nature or nurture I'm sure that most of us can agree that homosexuals don't choose to be homosexual.

Homosexuality is a developmental disorder. For many it is the result of some type of trauma experienced in early childhood, wether it be parental divorce, sexual abuse, mental abuse, or anyother type of trauma to a developing child. Even exposure to pornography at a young age can cause severe trauma. It might not seem like a choice because the trauma can be tangled up at an unconscious level. That is why therapy should be used with a trained therapist that can go in depth in every area a person's life.  
Richard P. Fitzgibbons, MD, Director of Comprehensive Counseling Services at a private psychiatric practice, wrote in a Jan. 24, 1997 letter to the Washington Times:

"There is substantial evidence based on years of clinical experience that homosexuality is a developmental disorder.

Every child has a healthy need to identify positively with the parent of the same sex, have same-sex friendships, a positive body image and a confident sexual identity. Homosexual feelings can occur when these needs are not met appropriately.

The adolescent's unmet needs become entangled with emerging sexual feelings and produce same-sex attraction.

Therapy consists in helping male clients to understand the emotional causes of their attraction and to strengthen their masculine identity. It has been our clinical experience that as these men become more conformable and confident with their manhood, same-sex attractions resolve or decrease significantly in many patients."



David N. Glesne, DMin, Senior Pastor at Redeemer Lutheran Church in Fridley, MN, wrote the following statements in his 2005 book Understanding Homosexuality: Perspectives for the Local Church:

"Homosexuality is neither innate and unchangeable nor a 'life-style choice' and changeable at will.  The one with homosexual feelings, desires, and behavior is struggling as a result of a developmental problem.  This developmental disorder is most often a deeply embedded condition which normally starts in early childhood long before the development of moral and self-awareness and is genuinely experienced by the individual as though it was never absent in one form or another."

The Traditional Values Coalition (TVC), a Christian lobbying organization, stated in a 2003 article titled "Born Gay," published on its website, TraditionalValues.org, that:

"In summary, the most credible research to date on homosexuality - and research conducted years ago - demonstrates that no one is 'born gay.' The homosexual is suffering from a developmental problem, which frequently starts out in childhood as gender confusion, family dysfunction, or molestation."

The Catholic Medical Association stated in its 2005 publication "Homosexuality and Hope," posted to its website, CathMed.org, that:

"If the emotional and developmental needs of each child are properly met by both family and peers, the development of same-sex attraction is very unlikely...
Healthy psycho-sexual development leads naturally to attraction in persons of each sex for the other sex. Trauma, erroneous education, and sin can cause a deviation from this pattern."





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