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(05-18-2010, 07:55 AM)RalphKramden Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with you 100%, I've only got one question about what you've said here
(05-18-2010, 06:59 AM)devotedknuckles Wrote: [ -> ]So let me get this straight benno
A movment of unrepentant sodomites has vowed to disrupt the Holy Mass and u complain and whine that trads on this board have posted they should be stopped? U and they both complain abput threats of violence yet don't get that its they who r the violent players here. Benno how do u or do u propose unrepentant sodomites or anyone who disrupts the Holy sacrifice be stopped?
Ill wait
I thought you believed the NO was a bastardized protestant service, not the Holy Sacrifice Huh? I believe it is in fact the Holy Sacrifice, I just thought you didn't. I don't think there is any doubt in anyone's mind that the masses they're going to be disrupting are NO, is there?

DK finally admits the NO is the Holy Sacrifice!  Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, ibi Deus.

LOL i always did. never did i say it wasn't a mass i say and say loudly its A PROD BASTARD MASS! LOL
that said we need to think about this. ask who the enemy is and why they are attacking the mass? what is their target? that is my concern with good reason. the local prod NO they will attack is not my focus. this is not a single incident in a vacuum. tie it together. connect the dots and perhaps you will see why its important to stop these vile unrepentant sodomites at a prod bastard mass before they make it to a real catholic one.
think about
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Our local police stand guard at the planned (banned) parenthood abortuary. Those who pray must keep far away and let nothing disturb the killing. When one elderly rosary praying person was shoved into the busy street and the policeman was asked to help, he only said he can guard the pp.

Only those with the graver sins seemed to be protected. Hmmm. Whose agenda is that?
(05-18-2010, 07:42 AM)LRThunder Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-18-2010, 07:12 AM)Lagrange Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-18-2010, 07:03 AM)Servus_Maria Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-18-2010, 06:59 AM)devotedknuckles Wrote: [ -> ]So let me get this straight benno
A movment of unrepentant sodomites has vowed to disrupt the Holy Mass and u complain and whine that trads on this board have posted they should be stopped? U and they both complain abput threats of violence yet don't get that its they who r the violent players here. Benno how do u or do u propose unrepentant sodomites or anyone who disrupts the Holy sacrifice be stopped?
Ill wait

I think what he means is that it's not up for civillians to take the law into their own hand (atleast where he and I are from, I don't know what goes down in America). These people should definitely be stopped, but if there's any violence it should be coming from the police. Also it might be worth noting that we're the Church militant because we're supposed to be fighting against the Devil and the world, not actually being actually become our own milita.

True, but its hardly the church militant if we're acting like a bunch of wimps when these people disrupt the most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

Didn't Our Lord chastise Peter when he (or one of the other apostles) cut off the ear of one of the guards who had come to arrest Jesus?

Didn't Our Lord say to turn the other cheek?

By responding with violence, we only destroy any credibility we might have had in the eyes of the secular world.  The apostles didn't advocate violent resistance, and the level of persecution they experienced was much more vicious and murderous than what we're experiencing right now in this country.
I too thought about St. Peter in the Garden of Olives; however, I had an entirely different take oin the scene.  Why did he bring a sword and why did Our Lord allow it to begin with?  It would seem that Our Lord did not have any issues with the apostles being armed.

Secondly, consider Jesus' encounter with the centurion in Matthew 8:8 (likely an armed soldier, though such detail is omitted).  Did Our Lord command him to find another line of work or tell him to lay down his arms?

Would those who say we should always "turn the other cheek" say the same to a woman who found herself subject to an abusive spouse?

I don't claim to have the answer here but wonder myself where we draw the line.  Can someone clarify the Church's "Just War" policy?
Defending yourself or the church or a church which comes under attack is just and right and a duty. Whether u like it or not oursa is not a pacifist religion
Far from it
(05-19-2010, 06:10 AM)devotedknuckles Wrote: [ -> ]Defending yourself or the church or a church which comes under attack is just and right and a duty. Whether u like it or not oursa is not a pacifist religion
Far from it

Indeed, failure to defend the Faith when attacked is a sin.
(05-19-2010, 08:04 AM)DesperatelySeeking Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-19-2010, 06:10 AM)devotedknuckles Wrote: [ -> ]Defending yourself or the church or a church which comes under attack is just and right and a duty. Whether u like it or not oursa is not a pacifist religion
Far from it

Indeed, failure to defend the Faith when attacked is a sin.

Nobody said we shouldn't defend the Faith...just that we shouldn't use violence to do so.
when churches are attacked yes using force is a duty. if we would of thought like you in Belfast no catholic church would of remained standing from he prod bastards who were burnin our homes and churches. but then again pacifism is an ideology divorced from the real deal of living and fighting for your people and faith. pacifism was never an option. nor is it ever an option. pacifism is not catholic. it never was and it never can be.  yes violence is at times called for. escorting unrepentant sodomites out forcefully if they refuse isnt violence. blocking these unrepentant sodomites from perpetrating their outrage in the sanctuary is not violence. its a duty
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