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Editor:  In response to the author of the piece at kath,net, it can only be said that they should strive for accuracy in honest in this as they do in other things: The Traditionalists never left the Catholic Church, and it's Bishop  Williamson who hasn't denied the Holocaust in Germany where it's a crime to speak one's mind. In any event, these figures for the Church are promising and show that the German people can, as many of them always have, think for themselves.

This should also put a bit of a stopper on those Austrian Statistics indicating 100,000 departures. You look at this, after lifting of excommunications, the German Church was still growing.

Germany: Church Departures Only Climbed Slightly in 2009

The numbers in departures are climbing only lightly despite the conflict concerning the SSPX: According to the Bishops' Conference, 123,681 Catholics left their Church; in the previous year (2008) there were 121.155.

Berlin (kath.net/KAP) The German Bishops' Conference have published the numbers of those leaving the Church for the year (2009). The numbers have climbed only lightly, despite the conflict with the SSPX: According to the Bishops' Conference 123,681 Catholics left their Church in the previous year; in that year (2008) there were 121,155. The number of Catholics are estimated at 24,9 Million, which is 30,5 % of the population.

http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2010...imbed.html

Edit: Changed the title to reflect the import of the story and added the first sentence so you know that it is a slur made by kathnet that's being referred to.
I would like to know how many we gained?
(08-13-2010, 04:14 AM)Unum Sint Wrote: [ -> ]I would like to know how many we gained?

[quote='kreuz.net']A small decline is shown in the number of baptisms: In 2008 there were still 185,600 people baptized, while there were around 179,000 in 2009. At the same time there were in 27 German Diocese 4,009 entrants in the Catholic Church and around 8,649 returning to the Church. In 2008 there were 4,388 entrances and 9546 returning to the Church.[/kreuz]

New edit.  This really is a striking story.
You know, considering that the press had insisted and sworn that this was going to be catastrophic, and in light of the alleged departure of 100,000 Austrian Catholics, this is really very encouraging.
The press wouldn't know what to do with itself if it didn't sensationalize every story about the Church seeming to lose believers by the truckload.
(08-13-2010, 02:12 PM)Lycorth Wrote: [ -> ]The press wouldn't know what to do with itself if it didn't sensationalize every story about the Church seeming to lose believers by the truckload.

I must confess that I have a much different picture of German Catholics now than a year ago.  The Church isn't great there, but there are a lot of good people there and the Church is actually growing, surprisingly, kirche gebuhr (church tax) or not.