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Polish Bishops' Conference: "The Kingdom of Christ is Not of this World"

Warsaw (kath.net/KAP) Poland's bishops are against the idea of a popular movement for the Consecration of Poland to Christ the King -- who take as their Motto: "Christ, King of Poland". This plan should be given up, said the president of the Polish Bishops' Conference, Archbishop Jozef Michalik, this Wednesday at the close of the Autumn Meeting of Bishops in Warsaw. The Kingdom of Christ is "not of this world".

http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2010...es-to.html
Not of this world, yes, but this world must nevertheless be subdued to Christ's Kingship. Why else did Christ send His Apostles to preach the doctrines of life? I find this decision of the Polish Bishops very sad and it is obvious that they do this in the spirit of religious indifferentism propagated through Vatican II.
I noticed the refusal was more, how do you say, sympathetic and less haughty than they usually are. 

I don't know.  The Bishops ARE in charge, but I agree, this really seems lame.
Wow, I thought Poland was the last conservative Catholic country. This is a great misunderstanding of the Kingship of Christ.

Never shall I be embarrassed to say Vivat Christus Rex!!!
It has echoes of the Consecration of Russia too.
My first reaction was like everyone else's--that it was a great idea and I didn't understand the opposition. Doing a little more research on this it looks like it is not meant to be a consecration by the bishops, but is being proposed in the parliament as installing Jesus Christ as the King of Poland.

Christ is the King of kings--he's the first King in that phrase, the king of Poland is one of the second. To me, it seems like declaring the Pope bishop of my local diocese. Yes, my diocese and it's actual bishop should be subject to the Pope in all things, but that doesn't make the Pope the local bishop. In this case Christ is truly King over all creation (including Poland) and all temporal rulers including those who rule Poland are subject to Him, but it seems wrong to give Him the title of "King of Poland." God's plan is for us to have temporal rulers who receive authority from Him, not for Him to be that temporal ruler. This seems to perhaps be the reasoning of the bishops who suggested Christ "King of the Universe" instead.

On the other hand, I don't see the same problem with actually consecrating Poland to Jesus Christ, the King of kings.

Does that make sense?
I do remember a king of Poland who declared our blessed Mother the Queen of Poland. Perhaps it was Saint Casimir.
(09-30-2010, 02:50 PM)SaintSebastian Wrote: [ -> ]My first reaction was like everyone else's--that it was a great idea and I didn't understand the opposition. Doing a little more research on this it looks like it is not meant to be a consecration by the bishops, but is being proposed in the parliament as installing Jesus Christ as the King of Poland.

Christ is the King of kings--he's the first King in that phrase, the king of Poland is one of the second. To me, it seems like declaring the Pope bishop of my local diocese. Yes, my diocese and it's actual bishop should be subject to the Pope in all things, but that doesn't make the Pope the local bishop. In this case Christ is truly King over all creation (including Poland) and all temporal rulers including those who rule Poland are subject to Him, but it seems wrong to give Him the title of "King of Poland." God's plan is for us to have temporal rulers who receive authority from Him, not for Him to be that temporal ruler. This seems to perhaps be the reasoning of the bishops who suggested Christ "King of the Universe" instead.

On the other hand, I don't see the same problem with actually consecrating Poland to Jesus Christ, the King of kings.

Does that make sense?

What's the problem with an official enthronement/consecration of Poland?    Poland's already done this for Our Lady.
From QUAS PRIMAS:


17. It would be a grave error, on the other hand, to say that Christ has no authority whatever in civil affairs, since, by virtue of the absolute empire over all creatures committed to him by the Father, all things are in his power. Nevertheless, during his life on earth he refrained from the exercise of such authority, and although he himself disdained to possess or to care for earthly goods, he did not, nor does he today, interfere with those who possess them. Non eripit mortalia qui regna dat caelestia.[27]

18. Thus the empire of our Redeemer embraces all men. To use the words of Our immortal predecessor, Pope Leo XIII: "His empire includes not only Catholic nations, not only baptized persons who, though of right belonging to the Church, have been led astray by error, or have been cut off from her by schism, but also all those who are outside the Christian faith; so that truly the whole of mankind is subject to the power of Jesus Christ."[28] Nor is there any difference in this matter between the individual and the family or the State; for all men, whether collectively or individually, are under the dominion of Christ. In him is the salvation of the individual, in him is the salvation of society. "Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given to men whereby we must be saved."[29] He is the author of happiness and true prosperity for every man and for every nation. "For a nation is happy when its citizens are happy. What else is a nation but a number of men living in concord?"[30] If, therefore, the rulers of nations wish to preserve their authority, to promote and increase the prosperity of their countries, they will not neglect the public duty of reverence and obedience to the rule of Christ. What We said at the beginning of Our Pontificate concerning the decline of public authority, and the lack of respect for the same, is equally true at the present day. "With God and Jesus Christ," we said, "excluded from political life, with authority derived not from God but from man, the very basis of that authority has been taken away, because the chief reason of the distinction between ruler and subject has been eliminated. The result is that human society is tottering to its fall, because it has no longer a secure and solid foundation."[31]

-His Holiness Pope Pius XI
"Then cried they all again, saying: Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber. "

... or in their case Putin.

Polish Bishops' Conference: We will not have this man to reign over us. Let Him be crucified. We have no King but Ceasar.
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