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I'm searching for a book dealing with the "New Atheism" as we know it.  A number of books have come out recently.  I can only think of Patrick Madrid's book.  Has anyone read it or any of the others that are out?  And if so, would you recommend it for teens and college age kids or their parents? 

I've been a fan of Fr. Vincent Miceli's S.J. (RIP) "Adventures in Atheism" audio series and his "Gods of Atheism" book, but they are very scholarly and deal with a lot of philosophers.  I need something a little more distilled. 

chris hedges is liberal, but he takes on new atheists in book recetly. haven't looked at it so cant recommend
I've heard that The Godless Delusion: A Catholic Challenge to Modern Atheism "is good, but not great." See a review of it here:

http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/Godle...Review.htm

As a wannabe* Thomist myself, I'd have to recommend Edward Feser's The Last Superstition: A Refutation of the New Atheism, but it may be on a more advanced level than what you are looking for. I haven't read it myself (at least not yet... I need to make more money first**), but after following his blog for a while, I'm sure it's fantastic.

http://www.edwardfeser.com/


*Please note, Feser is a professor of philosophy, and I didn't want to give the impression that he too was a wannabe Thomist.

** Hopefully by the end of November. I would most definitely purchase Feser's book, as well as any of the translated works of Fr. Garrigou-Lagrange, the greatest Thomist of the 20th century.
(10-27-2010, 03:58 PM)SouthpawLink Wrote: [ -> ]I've heard that The Godless Delusion: A Catholic Challenge to Modern Atheism "is good, but not great." See a review of it here:

http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/Godle...Review.htm

As a wannabe* Thomist myself, I'd have to recommend Edward Feser's The Last Superstition: A Refutation of the New Atheism, but it may be on a more advanced level than what you are looking for. I haven't read it myself (at least not yet... I need to make more money first**), but after following his blog for a while, I'm sure it's fantastic.

http://www.edwardfeser.com/


*Please note, Feser is a professor of philosophy, and I didn't want to give the impression that he too was a wannabe Thomist.

** Hopefully by the end of November. I would most definitely purchase Feser's book, as well as any of the translated works of Fr. Garrigou-Lagrange, the greatest Thomist of the 20th century.

I second the rec for The Last Superstition
(10-27-2010, 01:32 PM)Gerard Wrote: [ -> ]I'm searching for a book dealing with the "New Atheism" as we know it.  A number of books have come out recently.  I can only think of Patrick Madrid's book.   Has anyone read it or any of the others that are out?  And if so, would you recommend it for teens and college age kids or their parents? 

I've been a fan of Fr. Vincent Miceli's S.J. (RIP) "Adventures in Atheism" audio series and his "Gods of Atheism" book, but they are very scholarly and deal with a lot of philosophers.  I need something a little more distilled. 

See:

http://www.amazon.com/Evangelical-Atheis...title_full

The Crean book is the way to go for what you're looking for.
Cool.  Thanks everyone,  for the suggestions.  That's a good crop to pick from. 
(10-28-2010, 08:59 AM)Gerard Wrote: [ -> ]Cool.  Thanks everyone,  for the suggestions.  That's a good crop to pick from. 

re you going to get hedges book even though he is liberal?

this is it, btw: http://www.amazon.com/When-Atheism-Becom...t_ep_dpt_5
(10-29-2010, 09:34 AM)icecream Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2010, 08:59 AM)Gerard Wrote: [ -> ]Cool.  Thanks everyone,  for the suggestions.  That's a good crop to pick from. 

re you going to get hedges book even though he is liberal?

this is it, btw: http://www.amazon.com/When-Atheism-Becom...t_ep_dpt_5


I might get it for my own collection. There might be some nuggets of truth in there worth cultivating.  I was posting in order to get some suggestions for someone else just beginning to explor this subject.  It's always good when you're researching something or prepariing to defend something to have a more global view and sometimes you have to pick up books by people you don't agree with on a lot of things in order to understand them.  Sometimes you can even throw their own arguments against them to test their mettle or use their styles of persuasion to your own counterargument. . It also can prevent a lot of arguments when you're more well read on your opponents position than they are.  One of the best ways to disarm them is to politely ask them for their favorite books (plural) on the topic that they've read from cover to cover from a variety of perspectives.  If they really are ignorant, they tend to stumble around and come off their high horse.

This book may be in some ways similar to Berlinski's very enjoyable "The Devil's Delusion" which was very good in it's skepticism about scientific assumptions and presumptions. 

I was just reading some reader reviews of Prof. Feser's book, and one of them said that, "However, if you're looking for a philosophical book that specifically, directly and convincingly rebuts and refute all the main SPECIFIC arguments of the New Atheists, this book (The Last Superstition) will probably dissapoint you. Instead of this book, I'd strongly recommend you "A Sceptic's Guide to Atheism" by philosopher Peter Williams, a book that you can order from damaris website (http://www.damaris.org/cm/shop/product/60/). Williams' book is probably the best SPECIFIC and DETAILED philosophical response in print to each of the New Atheists (Dawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, Harris, Grayling, etc.)."

It's the third review down from the top: http://www.amazon.com/Last-Superstition-Refutation-New-Atheism/product-reviews/1587314517/ref=lmf_4_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

So, you might want to add that book to your list as well, Gerard.
The Drama of Atheist Humanism by Henri de Lubac SJ is actually pretty decent.
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