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(11-13-2010, 08:15 AM)Cetil Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Paragon said:
"Why was Our Lady saying this in 1973?  All of this had already happened.  This stuff was predicted at La Salette in 1846, in much franker terms: "Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of the Antichrist".  Our Lady of Good Success is also fascinating and far more worthy of belief than what I've just read about Akita.  It paints a picture which, although sober, is more optimistic than Akita.  But for some reason, people only seem to refer to the fire-and-brimstone we're-all-going-to-die prophecies.

The quote you offer from La Salette is inaccurate, that "Rome will become the seat of Antichrist." That quote did not appear in the original secret recently released from the archives of Leo XIII. We had some discussion of this awhile back: http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/inde...609.0.html
Here's another link: http://www.sspxasia.com/Newsletters/2003...alette.htm

C.

I'd like to read more about that if it's available, but there's no way I'm going to trust just two priests' words - especially if they're Novusites or SSPXers.

If the vatican archives did recently release some new copies of the secrets, would anyone be surprised if the quotes about Rome becoming the seat of the antichrist were removed?

If you read a little more you will see that version of the secret was condemned by the Holy Office in the 19th century. What has since been found in the archives of Leo XIII is the hand written secrets as they were made to the bishop at the time and before witnesses. But think what you want. I'm not going to hijack this thread any further.

C.
But how do we know that?  Because modern day authorities of Rome say so?
I think if you search you can find both versions on the net, and the substantiation of what Cetil said considering the 19th century ban.
I know because I ran into this years ago and read the one which is banned without me knowing, and then found the full details. Granted the net is now clogged by design (my brothers are muckty mucks in telephony/data transmission) but if you have the time and patience you'll find all of it.
tim
(11-11-2010, 03:13 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like a nuke...at least Keith Richards won't have anything to worry about....

Curiously, Keith has actually been deceased by most medical standards since 1996.

Greg, I agree with you that the mention of motors stopping in '73 is interesting.  FYI, a single EMP weapon detonated in the atmosphere could cause the failure of the entire U.S. power grid.

As someone who works with technology, I have been becoming more & more acutely aware how dangerous and silly our increasingly total reliance on it is.  At my office recently they installed those photoelectric automatic switches for the bathroom sinks.  Apparently it's no longer prudent to trust employees to be able to turn the water on and off (or set the temperature) by themselves.  So they install these new gizmos that cost thousands of dollars and one them breaks *every week*.  Imagine how quickly society will crumble if/when it's no longer possible to get the replacement parts all this high-tech-for-no-reason stuff requires.
(11-13-2010, 08:49 PM)paragon Wrote: [ -> ]I'd like to read more about that if it's available, but there's no way I'm going to trust just two priests' words - especially if they're Novusites or SSPXers.

That sure is interesting - who DO you trust?  Paragoner priests?
(11-14-2010, 02:04 PM)The Catholic Thinker Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-11-2010, 03:13 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like a nuke...at least Keith Richards won't have anything to worry about....

Curiously, Keith has actually been deceased by most medical standards since 1996.

Greg, I agree with you that the mention of motors stopping in '73 is interesting.  FYI, a single EMP weapon detonated in the atmosphere could cause the failure of the entire U.S. power grid.

As someone who works with technology, I have been becoming more & more acutely aware how dangerous and silly our increasingly total reliance on it is.  At my office recently they installed those photoelectric automatic switches for the bathroom sinks.  Apparently it's no longer prudent to trust employees to be able to turn the water on and off (or set the temperature) by themselves.  So they install these new gizmos that cost thousands of dollars and one them breaks *every week*.  Imagine how quickly society will crumble if/when it's no longer possible to get the replacement parts all this high-tech-for-no-reason stuff requires.

I guess we will find out how well the community building spirit of Vatican II has worked.

It will get ugly in my estimation but not everywhere will be as bad as some countries and cities.

New Orleans is probably a pretty good indicator of most US cities bearing in mind that the people in New Orleans knew that help was coming and that the rest of the US was NOT underwater.  That must have checked their behaviour to some extent.

When its dog eat dog then how many people behave like hungry dogs?
(11-11-2010, 03:46 AM)Admiratio Wrote: [ -> ]On October 8th of this year, just before 9:20 p.m. UTC (a.k.a. GMT) something just too weak to be considered a coronal mass ejection (or so I read) hit Earth's magnetic field.  Here is a video clip of that event made using satellite data:

http://imgur.com/XCtne.gif

The earth is at the center of the magnetic field, which is the rounded, pale blue region facing left and expanding outward to the right away from earth.  The shape is the bow shock of the Earth's magnetic field holding off the solar wind, the constant stream of radiation, plasma, and charged particles being blasted out from the Sun.

You can see the compression of the Earth's magnetic field when the ejecta impacts.  I assume a true Coronal Mass Ejection strong enough to burn everything on the ground would compress the magnetic field so severely that the field would be temporarily pushed back almost to ground level.  I am not an expert, though, and it may be something very different, such as the field being compressed until it is ineffectual at holding back the coronal plasma and radiation, and the bad stuff might go right through the field.  I don't know that much.

CME's are a normal part of solar weather, and, if they even hit Earth, most only cause electromagnetic interference.  There is a sort of constant worry that one will finally be strong enough to damage satellites in orbit and possibly fry some stuff, much like an EMP, or electromagnetic pulse.

Consider the above clip again.  A sufficiently powerful CME could act as a global or hemispherical EMP.

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/CMEs.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection

Yes, it has been getting hammered. Very weak, perhaps why Russia has built 5000 underground shelters.

Ever wonder why the gov't was so interested in buying up old cars at such a loss and expense?
(11-15-2010, 08:31 AM)ggreg Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-14-2010, 02:04 PM)The Catholic Thinker Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-11-2010, 03:13 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like a nuke...at least Keith Richards won't have anything to worry about....

Curiously, Keith has actually been deceased by most medical standards since 1996.

Greg, I agree with you that the mention of motors stopping in '73 is interesting.  FYI, a single EMP weapon detonated in the atmosphere could cause the failure of the entire U.S. power grid.

As someone who works with technology, I have been becoming more & more acutely aware how dangerous and silly our increasingly total reliance on it is.  At my office recently they installed those photoelectric automatic switches for the bathroom sinks.  Apparently it's no longer prudent to trust employees to be able to turn the water on and off (or set the temperature) by themselves.  So they install these new gizmos that cost thousands of dollars and one them breaks *every week*.  Imagine how quickly society will crumble if/when it's no longer possible to get the replacement parts all this high-tech-for-no-reason stuff requires.

I guess we will find out how well the community building spirit of Vatican II has worked.

It will get ugly in my estimation but not everywhere will be as bad as some countries and cities.

New Orleans is probably a pretty good indicator of most US cities bearing in mind that the people in New Orleans knew that help was coming and that the rest of the US was NOT underwater.  That must have checked their behaviour to some extent.

When its dog eat dog then how many people behave like hungry dogs?

This has been circulating for some time on the web. Posting it here for your discernment. Allegedly she predicted (at that time) the fall of the 2 towers.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1...e70890/pg1

VISION OF THE END OF THE U.S.

(Editors note: I don´t normally post revelations given to Mormons because I do not want anyone drawn into that cult but this lady has been given a warning from God to them, which she is delivering in seminars. God will save a remnant from among them. It appears that judgment begins with the World Trade Towers falling.)

Sarah Hoffman committed suicide in 1979 and was told she had to come back and finish her earth life but first she was shown the end of the world.

"This panoramic view of the earth came into view and then came closer and closer like I had been out into space and was flying towards it.

I knew that this was to help me make my decision to go back to earth, to my terrible life, because part of me wanted to go back to the beautiful spirit world or paradise and part of me felt the need to go back into my body and change my life. It was kind of a tug of war and what I was going to see was to help me understand what I would go through if I went back into my clay body.

It played out again just like a video tape in fast forward motion and yet again I could assimilate and see everything clearly and perfectly. As the world zoomed up to me I saw the whole world and then the various countries.

I don´t know the countries of the world very well, but as I looked at these lands I instinctively knew what countries they were. I was looking at the Middle East and watched as a missile flew from Libya and hit Israel with a big mushroom cloud. I knew that the missile was actually from Iran but people from Iran had been hiding it in Libya and fired it. I knew that it was a nuclear bomb. Almost immediately missiles started flying from one country to another, quickly spreading to all over the world. I also saw that many nuclear explosions did not come from missiles but from ground bombs of some kind. I knew that in the future there would be a nuclear war throughout the world and this is how it would start.

Then, my focus changed from the Middle East to America. I understood that I was about to see some of the things that would lead up to the nuclear holocaust I had just witnessed.

As I looked upon the continent of North America, I zeroed in on the east coast and then to New York. I saw New York with all of its buildings and people. Then I saw some tall buildings crashing to the earth with tremendous smoke, debris and dust everywhere (World Trade Towers ?). I saw a woman holding a little girls hand running from the crashing buildings. The lady had long dark hair past her shoulders curled inward a little. She had on a beige business suit, heels of a slightly darker color, perhaps a tan color. No glasses. The little girl appeared to be about 6-7 yrs old with short brown hair, below the chin, in a sort of a pageboy haircut. They were running together, holding hands running from the falling buildings in the heavy smoke and dust and they were forced to let go of hands and thereby they got separated. The little girl was terrified and I could hear the little girl screaming mommy, mommy over again and again. I don´t know if they lived or died. I can still see the face of the lady clearly and could identify her if I saw a picture...or could describe her to an artist to draw her. I asked if an earthquake caused the buildings to fall down and the impression was no, but I don´t know what caused them to fall.

The next thing that I felt more than I saw was that shortly after this there was no commerce, no shopping, buying, and was impressed that there was no economy. The economy had almost failed completely and no one had any money.

The next thing I saw was people being sick and dying. I saw this particularly in four cities, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Salt Lake. The disease started by having white blisters, some the size of dimes appear on their hands, arms and face. This quickly developed into white puffy sores and blisters. They would stumble about and fall and then many died within a short time, maybe 24 hours. I also saw other people with blood coming from their nose, mouth, eyes and ears. It started like a flu virus and it spread very quickly, faster than the other white blister disease. The people who had this disease died even faster. This was more wide spread across the entire United States. There were hundreds of thousands of people stricken with these two diseases.

I knew that the diseases, and there were several different kinds, but at first primarily these two, came from small containers that had been brought into the United States. These containers were like quart jars and I was impressed that the people carrying them would just drop them on the ground in large crowds of people and the people would become infected without realizing it.

In these cities as the disease spread, the people tried to flee from the cities out to the countryside. There was complete chaos in these cities and a breakdown of normal society. There was no electricity in them either, but I don´t know why or how that came to be. There were cars piled up everywhere, blocking roadways and most people then had to walk out with nothing. The disease started to spread beyond these initial cities.

As these people were fleeing the cities, there were gangs attacking them and killing them. In the cities that were struck with the disease, there was complete chaos, looting, rioting, murdering, a complete breakdown. Many people seemed to go absolutely crazy. I sensed that the electricity had failed everywhere now and that nothing was running, there was no communication or anything anywhere in the country. Nothing worked, no radios or TV´s. I watched people throw rocks and break windows to steal TV´s which I thought was really crazy because they wouldn´t work.

Immediately, as I watched this happen in the United States, I jumped back to the Middle East and saw the same thing in Israel, the same sores and I realized that it was the same types of disease or sickness happening there. I knew somehow that whatever diseases had been used in the United States was also being used in Israel.

This lasted for only an instant and I was back in the United States. There was a tremendously long winter that lasted into summer. It caught everyone by surprise and started the full famine. Actually, I realized that the long winter actually just increased the famine greatly to its full measure, because the famine had already been in progress because of the storms, droughts, floods and other plagues that had been happening over the few years leading up to the long winter.

It seemed then that the year following the long winter was when everything started to go down hill very quickly or things piled up one on top of the other without any breaks. The sense of time though was not very clear because I was seeing several things that seemed to happen all at the same time or very close together.

During and after the long winter, the disease spread everywhere and increased in severity. The economy was completely gone and the electricity was also gone. There was complete chaos and anarchy all over the United States. There was no government, just a total breakdown. There was no food at all... I saw people trying to get food and were completely panicked because there was no food. I saw people digging in the ground for worms and eating them because they were so hungry.

Also, during this time I became aware that there was very little water and that almost all of the water had become poisoned so that if a person drank the water they would get the disease and die. Many did even knowing that they would die, because they were so thirsty.

Some of the people seemed to go crazy and went around in gangs killing people just for the sake of killing. Others killed for food or for things but the people who killed just to kill were absolutely terrible. They seemed like beasts, animals completely out of control as they raped, looted, burned and butchered people. I saw them go into people´s homes and drag families out who were hiding there and rape them and butcher them.

There was such a fear and hatred that came upon the people...families, wives, husbands...loving ties no longer mattered...it became survival only. Husbands would kill their wives and children for food or water. Mothers would kill their children. It was absolutely horrible beyond description.

The air seemed to be filled with smoke as many buildings and cities burned and no one put them out. As I looked upon the scene of chaos, destruction and smoke, I noticed that there were these little pockets of light scattered all over the United States. There were, I would guess, about twenty or thirty of them. I noticed that most of these places of light were in the Western part of the United States, with only three or four in the East.

These places of light seemed to shine through the darkness and caught my attention and so I concentrated on them, asking, "what are these things?"

I could then see that they were people who had gathered together and they were on their knees and they were praying. The light was coming from them and I understood that it represented their goodness and love. I understood that they had gathered together for safety and that they cared more for each other than for themselves. Some of the groups were small, with only a hundred people or so, but in other groups there were what seemed several thousand.

I realized that somehow many, if not most of these cities of light had been established just before the disease attack and that they were very organized. It was like they had known what was coming and had prepared for it. I didn´t see who or what had organized them, but I saw many people struggling to get to them with nothing but what they could carry.

These cities of light had food and were sharing their food with those who joined them in their groups. There was peace and safety in the groups. They were living in tents, all kinds of tents, many of which were just blankets, covering poles. I noticed that the gangs left these groups alone, choosing to pick on easier targets and unprotected people. They also preyed on the people who were trying to get to the cities of light. Many people in these cities of light had guns to defend themselves with and so the gangs left them alone but it seemed that the gangs just didn´t want to come against them.

I realized that these cities of light, which is what I began to think of them, were only for a short time and then the people in them would go somewhere else, however, I don´t know where they went but I seem to think that they gathered to the mountains, to the high places.

As I was looking at the cities of light, I then saw missiles coming and hitting some cities and mushroom clouds started happening all over the United States. Some were from missiles that I knew came from Russia and others were not from missiles, but were from bombs that were already in the United States. They were hidden in trucks and in cars and were exploded.

I specifically saw Los Angeles, Las Vegas and New York hit with bombs. New York was hit with a missile, but I think that Los Angeles was hit by a truck bomb or actually several, because I didn´t see any missile. I also saw north of Salt Lake City have a mushroom cloud, a small one, but no missile.

In the darkness I also saw little fireballs. I don´t know if this happened just before or during the mushroom clouds, but there were millions falling everywhere. They were very hot, of different sizes with most about the size of golf balls. As they fell from the sky they left a streak of flame and smoke behind them. Whatever they touched they started on fire, people, buildings, trees, grass it didn´t matter. I didn´t ask what they were or where they came from, because by this time I was getting sick of the whole scene and so I just observed and didn´t ask many questions.

Almost right on top of these mushroom clouds I saw Russian troops invading the United States. I saw them parachuting in to a lot of places, primarily from the East Coast. I saw them parachute into Salt Lake City. I also saw Chinese troops invade from the West Coast, near Los Angeles. The people who were still alive started fighting them with their own guns. I didn´t see any military.

This was the nuclear war that I had seen earlier and I knew that it was also happening all over the world like I had seen previously. I did not see much of this war, but I was impressed that it was not very long and the Russians and Chinese lose, but I don´t know how exactly.

Now the smoke turned to a very thick, heavy dark smoke. Just as things appeared to be as bad as it could get, then the earthquakes happened. This happened during a winter. It seemed that this was the winter following the very long one and so the chaos had been almost for a full year. The earthquakes seemed to start in the West, around Idaho and Wyoming and then quickly spread everywhere.

I saw a huge earthquake strike Utah and then California. There were earthquakes all over California, but were especially devastating in Los Angeles and San Francisco areas.

These earthquakes triggered volcanoes all over the West. They started spewing a tremendous amount of ash and smoke into the air and the air became very dark and dirty. The sun was darkened even more because of the smoke and the ash that started raining down everywhere.

I also saw huge waves of water sweep over the West Coast and then I realized that it was happening all over the coastal cities of the entire world. Los Angeles was almost swept completely away. The waves were huge.

I saw a big wall of water, taller than many of the buildings, perhaps as high as 20 feet, sweep over Salt Lake City. I thought this was strange because it was so far from the ocean and I thought how could a wave from the ocean travel all the way to Salt Lake City. I was impressed that it was not from the ocean but from the ground. I quickly saw great cracks in the earth around Salt Lake City open up and water just shot out of the ground. I felt that under the ground, very deep, there was a tremendous amount of water in the ground and the earthquakes forced it up to the surface. When the water swept over the city, there weren´t very many buildings left, in fact there was a tremendous destruction with hardly anything left at all, just a few buildings. The water went from Idaho down to near Cedar City and was very bad.

In the cities there was great destruction, and most of the buildings had been destroyed and there was a lot of rubble. Though the earthquakes, disease, floods, volcanos, tidal waves killed a lot of people, most people died because of the gangs and everyone killing each other...not from the terrible devastations.

As I thought a moment about the It seemed that the earth itself had become sickened at the terrible things that were happening upon it and was finally reacting. I was impressed that the earth wanted to cleanse itself of the terrible chaos and evil that had engulfed the people.

Because of the volcanoes erupting everywhere, there was now ash mixed with the heavy smoke. Ash was falling and it was almost complete darkness everywhere.

The diseases had become very bad...I saw people literally die on their feet. There was another disease I saw. They had these red blotches on them and then they quickly started bleeding everywhere, from every opening. Then, they literally disintegrated or melted into unrecognizable masses of flesh and bone. I cannot even begin to describe what I saw. The dead were everywhere

After this terrible winter, I saw the survivors pile up the dead into huge piles and burn them. The smell was absolutely terrible. I could smell it just a little and the smell itself would make you sick This burning of bodies had happened a little during the chaos, but not much because people were so worried about surviving that they just ignored the dead.

I then saw four more things.

I saw a huge earthquake in the middle of the United States. It was tremendous and seemed to split the United States in half about where the Mississippi River is. The crack in the earth that resulted was huge and that area totally sinks. It is miles wide and it opens up and the earth falls down. It seemed to swallow everything. Then water flowed in from the Gulf of Mexico all the way up to the Great Lakes, only they weren´t lakes anymore, they became all part of a big inland sea.

I then saw a series of tremendous earthquakes all over the world. But it wasn´t lots of separate earthquakes, it was all part of one huge, gigantic earthquake that shakes the entire earth. Because of this earthquake, waters come upon the land all over the world. Huge walls of water along all of the coasts. This earthquake and the walls of water make the earlier ones seem small by comparison. I don´t know if the earthquake that split the United States into two parts was part of this worldwide quake or not.

I then saw a tremendous wind come upon the earth. As the wind hit I saw people go into caves and into the cracks of rocks to escape it. It was tremendous and it blew trees and everything away. It appeared to be stronger than any hurricane or tornado. It seemed like everything was blown away.

I understood, without asking, that the great worldwide earthquake and the wind were somehow caused by a huge object, like a planet or something, that had come very close by the earth and disrupted everything and that it was near the end that this happened.

I then was back into space viewing the entire earth from a distance. I then saw this huge fireball, two or three times bigger than the earth approach the earth. It was extremely bright red and gold in color and then engulfed the entire earth. When I saw this, because it was so different than everything else, I then asked what it was. I was impressed that it was the burning of the earth that is described in the scriptures. I understood that just before it comes that Jesus had appeared to the earth and the good people that I had seen earlier had left the earth with Him and were no longer on the earth. The only people left were the few wicked who had survived the devastations earlier, but there were not many."

Pray the Rosary
Show me it in writing before 2001 and I'll take it seriously.

Otherwise she's just another nutter from the Church of JC and the LSD.
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