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OK, I know this will be a bit of a topic, but here goes.

Just for a moment, let's suppose hypothetically  that women are supposed to wear only skirts and dresses (I DO NOT want to argue for or against pants here), what sports could she play in a skirt modestly?

This came up as I was reading a modesty booklet:  http://www.sicutincaelo.org/downloads/TWSG_Read.pdf

Here is the relevant section:

Sports and Recreation
Many people think that when they are having a picnic or on
an outing that the standards for modesty do not apply. Yet, on
August 20, 1954, Pope Pius XII declared:
On the beaches, in country resorts, almost everywhere,
on the streets of cities and towns, in public and private
places, and, indeed, often even in buildings dedicated to
God, an unworthy and indecent mode of dress has
prevailed.45
These words remind us that the same standard of modesty
is to be practiced at all times and places since in all
circumstances human nature is subject to the same temptations.
Perhaps for many, because of existing habits, practicing
modesty in this area will be the most difficult to observe. Our
culture practically worships sports. Because of this, modesty in
sportswear has been sacrificed to the god of gaining the
competitive advantage — even if there is no competition! It is
good to be reminded again of the words of Pope Pius XII:
The good of our soul is more important than that of our
body; and we have to prefer the spiritual welfare of our
neighbor to our bodily comforts…If a certain kind of dress
constitutes a grave and proximate occasion of sin, and
endangers the salvation of your soul and others, it is your
duty to give it up. 46
Obviously, for this same reason, Pius XI, taught in his
encyclical "On The Christian Education of Youth," that "in
gymnastic exercises and deportment, special care must be had of
Christian modesty in young women and girls, which is so gravely
impaired by any kind of exhibition in public." 47 Later, Pope Pius
XII would add, "Do they not see the harm resulting from excess
in certain gymnastic exercises and sports not suitable for virtuous
girls? 48
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Therefore, the Marylike Crusade taught that the same two
rules apply everywhere: "Sufficient coverage and proper fit." 49
This is why Catholic schools once dressed their girls in Marylike
gym suits for physical education. We see how God came first in
those days!


For instance:  My daughters & many other girls where I live play hockey.  The equipment is distinctly manly looking & requires pants.  Should hockey - which is a great winter sport - be avoided by girls in this instance?

What about basket ball or track - If we go by the premise from Cardinal Siri & girls don't wear pants - do they participate wearing some sort of loose skirt that allows them to run & jump?

What sports would be acceptable for physical activity & recreation?

To those fishies who remember when girls were only allowed to wear skirts in school - did girls participate in sports then?  What did they wear?


I can't believe there are many sports you could comfortably and safely play wearing a long skirt.  Ping pong and billiards, I guess.
The skirt does not necessarily have to be long - just knee length or so.
Tennis would be very good. Too bad about modern tennis skirts.
Ladies' tennis--Bishop Williamson's favorite spectator sport.   ;D
I remember AgnusDei1989 making a good point that sometimes pants are more modest than skirts-- say, when jumping on a trampoline.  Everything in its place.
(01-08-2011, 12:14 AM)WhollyRoaminCatholic Wrote: [ -> ]I remember AgnusDei1989 making a good point that sometimes pants are more modest than skirts-- say, when jumping on a trampoline.  Everything in its place.

I wouldn't recommend skirts while riding horses either.

(01-07-2011, 08:50 PM)MaterLaeta Wrote: [ -> ]OK, I know this will be a bit of a topic, but here goes.

Just for a moment, let's suppose hypothetically  that women are supposed to wear only skirts and dresses (I DO NOT want to argue for or against pants here), what sports could she play in a skirt modestly?

This came up as I was reading a modesty booklet:   http://www.sicutincaelo.org/downloads/TWSG_Read.pdf

Here is the relevant section:

Sports and Recreation
Many people think that when they are having a picnic or on
an outing that the standards for modesty do not apply. Yet, on
August 20, 1954, Pope Pius XII declared:
On the beaches, in country resorts, almost everywhere,
on the streets of cities and towns, in public and private
places, and, indeed, often even in buildings dedicated to
God, an unworthy and indecent mode of dress has
prevailed.45
These words remind us that the same standard of modesty
is to be practiced at all times and places
since in all
circumstances human nature is subject to the same temptations.
Perhaps for many, because of existing habits, practicing
modesty in this area will be the most difficult to observe. Our
culture practically worships sports. Because of this, modesty in
sportswear has been sacrificed to the god of gaining the
competitive advantage — even if there is no competition! It is
good to be reminded again of the words of Pope Pius XII:
The good of our soul is more important than that of our
body; and we have to prefer the spiritual welfare of our
neighbor to our bodily comforts…If a certain kind of dress
constitutes a grave and proximate occasion of sin, and
endangers the salvation of your soul and others, it is your
duty to give it up. 46
Obviously, for this same reason, Pius XI, taught in his
encyclical "On The Christian Education of Youth," that "in
gymnastic exercises and deportment, special care must be had of
Christian modesty in young women and girls, which is so gravely
impaired by any kind of exhibition in public." 47 Later, Pope Pius
XII would add, "Do they not see the harm resulting from excess
in certain gymnastic exercises and sports not suitable for virtuous
girls? 48
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Therefore, the Marylike Crusade taught that the same two
rules apply everywhere: "Sufficient coverage and proper fit." 49
This is why Catholic schools once dressed their girls in Marylike
gym suits for physical education. We see how God came first in
those days!


For instance:  My daughters & many other girls where I live play hockey.  The equipment is distinctly manly looking & requires pants.  Should hockey - which is a great winter sport - be avoided by girls in this instance?

What about basket ball or track - If we go by the premise from Cardinal Siri & girls don't wear pants - do they participate wearing some sort of loose skirt that allows them to run & jump?

What sports would be acceptable for physical activity & recreation?

To those fishies who remember when girls were only allowed to wear skirts in school - did girls participate in sports then?  What did they wear?


The premise of the author is false and therefore can safely be ignored
We played volleyball, jumped rope, softball, and I ride motorcycles modestly in a long skirt.  It just depends who you are playing with.  I haven't found anything yet that I can't do in a "long skirt".
(01-08-2011, 12:14 AM)WhollyRoaminCatholic Wrote: [ -> ]I remember AgnusDei1989 making a good point that sometimes pants are more modest than skirts-- say, when jumping on a trampoline.  Everything in its place.

Well, I would argue that it would be better to wear something like tights/leggings under the skirt.  You are covered if anything happens (skirt flys up) and then even more covered when the skirt is down.

Personally, the only time I wear pants is on a horse.  I do not own a sidesaddle, I can't afford to buy one, and no one gives training in side saddle equitation (and yes, you don't ride the same way, because you only have leg contact on one side of the horse).
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