(02-13-2011, 02:48 PM)JayneK Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2011, 02:41 PM)CanadianCatholic Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2011, 02:24 PM)JayneK Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2011, 12:30 PM)CanadianCatholic Wrote: [ -> ]Go outside and have a smoke, or stay inside and rage on my kids....you tell me which one sounds more sinful.
Are those really the only two choices open to you?
Pretty much yeah...or have a couple shots of whiskey...but I have ALOT of driving to so in a day, so smoking it is.
If you can go outside and smoke, you ought to be able to go outside and pray.
I
know that being uncharitable and self-righteous are sins, because Jesus said so in the Gospels (two separate citations below.) You were both uncharitable and self-righteous in your comment to CC, Jayne. There was no reason for you to reply in such a rude manner.
CC had made it clear that she didn't want your advice about smoking with her last comment about substituting drinking for smoking and the reason that wouldn't work well for her. Instead of taking her hint and letting the topic die, you chose to make a "helpful hint." Your suggestion "If you can go outside and smoke, you ought to be able to go outside and pray" is an insinuation that she doesn't pray enough or perhaps doesn't pray properly.
Last I heard, Benedict XVI was still Pope and the Catholic Church still doesn't ordain women so you are really not in a position to tell anyone to pray more or that smoking is a sin.
For the record, I don't smoke, though I used to long ago. Now, smoke bothers me a lot, but I'd rather be in a roomful of smokers who are congenial and don't think they are better than others than have to be with one self-righteous non-smoker. Unfortunately, a lot of non-smokers are self-righteous and smokers are usually more congenial than non-smokers. Now that I think of it, all of the congenial people I know are former smokers, as am I, or current smokers. Perhaps younger people, as in Lisa's family, who chose not to smoke, are more congenial than older moralistic non-smokers. The only older people I can think of who have never smoked are Baptists, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, all very moralistic, rigid groups.
Since we know that not all life-long smokers develop lung cancer, emphysema, etc., and that non-smokers do develop those diseases, I think that tobacco alone is not the problem but tobacco use
by people who are genetically susceptible to those diseases.
By the way, are you aware that women who have had breast cancer "cured" usually develop lung cancer a few years later? If the lung cancer is "cured" for a few years, it usually comes back as brain cancer. So breast cancer is a cause of lung cancer and/or brain cancer.
St. Matthew, Chap. 22, Jesus Answers About the Greatest Commandment
[34] But the Pharisees hearing that he had silenced the Sadducees, came together: [35] And one of them, a doctor of the law, asking him, tempting him:
[36] Master, which is the greatest commandment in the law? [37] Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind. [38] This is the greatest and the first commandment. [39] And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. [40] On these two commandments dependeth the whole law and the prophets.
St. Luke, Chap. 18, Jesus Speaks the Parable of the Pharisee and the Publican
[9] And to some who trusted in themselves as just, and despised others, he spoke also this parable: [10] Two men went up into the temple to pray: the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
[11] The Pharisee standing, prayed thus with himself: O God, I give thee thanks that I am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, as also is this publican. [12] I fast twice in a week: I give tithes of all that I possess. [13] And the publican, standing afar off, would not so much as lift up his eyes towards heaven; but struck his breast, saying: O God, be merciful to me a sinner. [14] I say to you, this man went down into his house justified rather than the other: because every one that exalteth himself, shall be humbled: and he that humbleth himself, shall be exalted.