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Since we are told we have one Latin Rite of which there are two forms, all clergy and laity should accept that. We are told.

That said, suppose a priest refuses to pray the OF. Well, that would be frowned upon by Rome wouldn't it ? Now suppose a priest refuses to pray the EF. 

Who frowns on him ?
God because its his place to.  Not ours.
(05-15-2011, 02:33 PM)Mithrandylan Wrote: [ -> ]God because its his place to.  Not ours.

Agreed. Just seems a double standard.
(05-15-2011, 02:35 PM)Dominus est Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-15-2011, 02:33 PM)Mithrandylan Wrote: [ -> ]God because its his place to.  Not ours.

Agreed. Just seems a double standard.

Maybe it is.  But fairness =/= justice.  Easier said then done but I would suppose to just offer it up for the intentions of TLM becoming widespread and the NO eventually dropping off the map.  His Will be done.
(05-15-2011, 02:27 PM)Dominus est Wrote: [ -> ]That said, suppose a priest refuses to pray the OF. Well, that would be frowned upon by Rome wouldn't it ?

No.  Rome has no problem with an FSSP priest, for example, saying only the EF.  Sure, lots of bishops do, but Rome doesn't.  Even under JP2 they weren't obliged to say the NO.
Also when asked Ecclesia Dei was fairly consistent in the fact that yes a TLM could replace a NO Mass on the Sunday schedule.
(05-15-2011, 05:33 PM)QuisUtDeus Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-15-2011, 02:27 PM)Dominus est Wrote: [ -> ]That said, suppose a priest refuses to pray the OF. Well, that would be frowned upon by Rome wouldn't it ?

No.  Rome has no problem with an FSSP priest, for example, saying only the EF.  Sure, lots of bishops do, but Rome doesn't.  Even under JP2 they weren't obliged to say the NO.

True, but let's say a diocesan priest wakens up and decides he's only going to celebrate the EF, he would be reprimanded would he not, and 'forced' to say the OF?
(05-15-2011, 05:33 PM)QuisUtDeus Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-15-2011, 02:27 PM)Dominus est Wrote: [ -> ]That said, suppose a priest refuses to pray the OF. Well, that would be frowned upon by Rome wouldn't it ?

No.  Rome has no problem with an FSSP priest, for example, saying only the EF.  Sure, lots of bishops do, but Rome doesn't.  Even under JP2 they weren't obliged to say the NO.

Ok, I didn't know that.
In my opinion both forms should be available at all Diocesan parishes.  Should there be a group of priests so attached to the NO that they want to create their own religious fraternity devoted to just saying the NO....more power to them.
(05-15-2011, 02:27 PM)Dominus est Wrote: [ -> ]Since we are told we have one Latin Rite of which there are two forms, all clergy and laity should accept that. We are told.

According to Pope Paul VI, the OF is a "new rite of the Mass" (general audiences of November 19 & 26, 1969).  Two rites.

So, who are we to believe, Paul VI (two rites) or Pope Benedict XVI (two forms of one rite)?
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