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Archbishop Promotes Socialist Wealth-Confiscation Schemes
The Canonization of Marx and Coercive Virtue


Editor: It's a Bella Dodd alert.  Some commentators think it's cute when Archbishops use their moral authority to promote Socialist wealth confiscation schemes and the mistaken idea that people being coerced to support government programs allegedly for poor relief, constitute charity.  Perhaps Archbishop Nienstedt should consult St. Thomas on this issue rather than Karl Marx?  Aquinas says:

    It is not always through the perfect goodness of virtue that one obeys the law, but sometimes it is through fear of punishment, and sometimes from the mere dictate of reason, which is a kind of beginning of virtue.(8)

http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2011...ealth.html
I don't take you blog serious anyway, and here you are lambasting an Archbishop without giving a link to what he said that so enrages you, but what really pains me is you use of St. Thomas for the defense of the uncatholic American Greed-Capitalism.

St. Thomas said:
[...][A]ccording to the natural order established by Divine Providence, inferior things are ordained for the purpose of succoring man's needs by their means. Wherefore the division and appropriation of things which are based on human law, do not preclude the fact that man's needs have to be remedied by means of these very things. Hence whatever certain people have in superabundance is due, by natural law, to the purpose of succoring the poor. For this reason Ambrose [Loc. cit., 2, Objection 3] says, and his words are embodied in the Decretals (Dist. xlvii, can. Sicut ii): "It is the hungry man's bread that you withhold, the naked man's cloak that you store away, the money that you bury in the earth is the price of the poor man's ransom and freedom."
(Summa, II-II, 66, A7)
Then let us rely on the fruits of fraternal charity of those motivated to give by it, rather than force the grumbling masses to give aid of which they do not support.
Actually, the Archbishop's comments were addressed successively by Mark Sashay and Senator Dahl.  If you can't address the point, don't address it at all.

Charity that depends on government coercion isn't charity.
People who grumble about capitalism are reds anyway.
(06-17-2011, 01:18 PM)UnamSanctam Wrote: [ -> ]Then let us rely on the fruits of fraternal charity of those motivated to give by it, rather than force the grumbling masses to give aid of which they do not support.

The state should not regulate morality, instead, we should rely on the illusion that people are virtuous. Modernism at its best.
But please then, be consistent and don't ask for the state to protect marriage, etc.

I'm always amazed at how Trads become Cafeteria Catholics whenever the social teaching of the Church is concerned.
It doesn't amaze me how Reds infiltrate traditionalist circles to promote Marxist coercion under the veil of "social justice".

The state having an obligation to promote the morality of its citizens has nothing to do with calling item a, in this case taxation for social programs of dubious quality, and real charity, which actually requires an act of the will.

I've said this countless times.  If the Bishops were as good at saving souls as they are at campaigning for socialist poltical agendas, we'd be a holy group of people in this country.

If the Catholic bishops told the DNC and the government off when it comes to running their farm. Many of our probs would disappear over night.  Bishops are terrified of losing their subsidies in this country or losing church tax in Europe.
(06-17-2011, 02:40 PM)Freudentaumel Wrote: [ -> ]The state should not regulate morality, instead, we should rely on the illusion that people are virtuous. Modernism at its best.
But please then, be consistent and don't ask for the state to protect marriage, etc.

I'm always amazed at how Trads become Cafeteria Catholics whenever the social teaching of the Church is concerned.

QFT :)
If you want to define the "social teaching" of the Church to apply to the socialist actualities so you can feel good about that, fine, admit to that, but don't expect anyone, least of all the Marxists you're supporting, to do anything but hold you in contempt.
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