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"GREEK  GIFTS"  --  I



On September 14 in a few weeks'  time is due to take place in Rome, so we are told, a meeting of Cardinal Levada and Roman officials with the Superior General of the Society of St Pius X and his two Assistants. Catholics who appreciate all that Archbishop Lefebvre and his Society have been given to do over the last 40 years in defence of the Faith need to be forewarned, because that Faith is ever more in danger, and "Forewarned is forearmed", especially by prayer.



It was Cardinal Levada, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, who was entrusted two years ago with overseeing the doctrinal Discussions that ran from the autumn of 2009 to April of this year, between Rome and the SSPX. It was Rome that invited the SSPX to this meeting. It seems reasonable to anticipate that the Romans on September 14 will be laying down as to future relations with the SSPX their decision emerging from the Discussions.



Now by all accounts the Discussions made clear that no doctrinal agreement is possible between the SSPX as cleaving to the age-old Church doctrine, and today's Rome as set upon the  Conciliar teaching of the Newchurch, and moreover persevering in this disorientation, as is clear from the Newbeatification of John-Paul II in May and from Assisi III due to happen this coming October. So the situation coming out of the Discussions remains exactly where it was two years ago, going into the Discussions: on the one hand, for the glory of God and for the salvation of souls, the SSPX strives to help Rome back to the true Catholic Faith, whilst for the glory of modern man and for the satisfaction of his ignoble media (as in January and February of 2009), Conciliar Rome is doing all within its power to induce the SSPX to blend into the mind- and soul-rotting ecumenism of the Newfaith.



What then can we imagine Rome imposing on September 14 ?  Either carrot or stick, more probably, as adjusted by their expertise in its reading of the current state of mind within the SSPX, both. The stick could be a threat of total "excommunication" for the SSPX, once and for all. But who that has the Catholic Faith could be scared by such a threat ?  When Archbishop Lefebvre was threatened for the first time with "excommunication" from the Newchurch, we remember his reply: "How can I be put out of a 'church' to which I have never belonged ?"



On the other hand the cleverest carrot from Rome could be the apparently irresistible offer of "full communion with Rome" on the SSPX's own terms. Only there might be hidden away a little clause that would stipulate that future SSPX Superiors and Bishops might be chosen by a joint committee of Rome and the SSPX with the merest majority of members being -- Romans. After all, would the SSPX be wanting to come under Rome, or not ?  "Make up your minds !" will be their reasonable demand, as Cardinal Ratzinger reportedly cried out in 2001.


Clear minds recall the saying of the wise -- but scorned -- Trojan who did not want the Greeks' Horse to be brought into Troy: "Howsoever it be, I fear the Greeks, even when they bear gifts." But the Trojan Horse was brought in. We all know what happened to Troy.                                                     

                                                    Kyrie eleison
"When Archbishop Lefebvre was threatened for the first time with "excommunication" from the Newchurch, we remember his reply: "How can I be put out of a 'church' to which I have never belonged ?"

Wasn't Cardinal Levada the bishop referenced in the book "Priest where is they Mass..."  who when the priest asked him, "Truth plus Error is what? " The answer was "Truth."  And he also claimed the bishop was a heretic in his beliefs about the Real Presence? 
So it seems that Bishop Williamson has done quite a good job of poisoning the water as many seem more than willing to drink from it.
(08-20-2011, 02:43 PM)Unum Sint Wrote: [ -> ]So it seems tha Bishop Williamson has done quite a good job of poisoning the water as many seem kore than willing to drink from it.

More accurately, Bishop W is warning people that the water is already poisoned.  And he should know, Bishop W hasn't lied about the Pope.  The Pope however has published lies about Bishop Williamson and made money off of them. 

The Heirarchy has tried to engage in Simony against Williamson by promising the consideration of a post in the conciliar Church if he will only offer incense to the politically correct world. 

Nothing substantial has changed since Archbishop LeFebvre was dealing with Rome except that Rome has a weaker  hand and is more desperate than they were in 1988.

(08-20-2011, 12:04 PM)Petertherock Wrote: [ -> ]"When Archbishop Lefebvre was threatened for the first time with "excommunication" from the Newchurch, we remember his reply: "How can I be put out of a 'church' to which I have never belonged ?"

Amen!
(08-20-2011, 11:58 AM)Petertherock Wrote: [ -> ]The stick could be a threat of total "excommunication" for the SSPX, once and for all.

I think your imagination is running away with you.
Compared to Cardinal Levada and what he allowed in Portland and San Francisco, Bishop Williamson is a saint!!!
(08-20-2011, 08:13 PM)Peter J Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-20-2011, 11:58 AM)Petertherock Wrote: [ -> ]The stick could be a threat of total "excommunication" for the SSPX, once and for all.

I think your imagination is running away with you.

Not me my friend...Bishop W.

(08-20-2011, 09:04 PM)Petertherock Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-20-2011, 08:13 PM)Peter J Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-20-2011, 11:58 AM)Petertherock Wrote: [ -> ]The stick could be a threat of total "excommunication" for the SSPX, once and for all.

I think your imagination is running away with you.

Not me my friend...Bishop W.

Correction duly noted.  Smile
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