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"PATSY McGARRY, Religious Affairs Correspondent

AN ESTIMATED 400 Austrian Catholic priests, or almost 10 per cent of the 4,200 in the country, are reported to support an “Appeal to Disobedience” which calls for significant reform of guidelines on celibacy, marriage and other areas of church authority.

The initiative was launched on Trinity Sunday, June 19th, and priests behind it said that “Roman refusal to take up long-needed reforms and the inaction of the bishops not only permits but demands that we follow our conscience and act independently”.

On their website www.pfarrer-initiative.at, they called for the abolition of celibacy; for married clergy to be allowed; for shared Communion with remarried people and other Christians. They have also called for reform of the liturgy and introduction of the term “Priestless Eucharistic Celebration” for a liturgy of the Word with distribution of Communion.

“This is how the Sunday Mass obligation is fulfilled when priests are in short supply,” they said.

The initiative is led by Archbishop of Vienna Cardinal Christoph Schönborn’s former vicar general, Msgr Helmut Schüller.

The cardinal has expressed shock at the initiative and reminded priests that they had freely promised obedience to their bishop at ordination.

He said, “the one who gives up the principle of obedience dissolves unity”, but that he would meet with the priest leaders of the appeal to point out its “inconsistencies,” such as “priestless Eucharist”.

The meeting has yet to take place.

He also suggested that “those who truly in conscience believe that they must disobey the hierarchy, and that ‘Rome’ is on the wrong track [and] gravely contradicts the will of God”, ought to “travel the way no more with the Roman Catholic Church”.

Meanwhile, the results of a poll in Austria by the Oekonsult institute, published this week, found that 71.7 per cent of those polled found the appeal “fair and adequate”, with 64.7 per cent saying they would sign a “call for insurbodination”.

According to 73.8 per cent, pressure from the initiative could help the Austrian Catholic Church argue a case with the Vatican that reforms were unavoidable.

This initiative by Austrian priests shares many aspirations with the newly formed Association of Catholic Priests in Ireland."

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/fron...39091.html
Look closely at the words:

“Roman refusal to take up long-needed reforms and the inaction of the bishops not only permits but demands that we follow our conscience and act independently”.

Notice that they define Rome as an institution or body foreign to their own habitation? Do you see that they are schismatics? This is very saddening, and it's exactly the sort of language that started to sprout up in Northern Germany about 500 years ago. Let us pray very diligently and with many tears that Oct. 31, 2017 doesn't see an Austria-wide celebration of Reformation Day along with the Protestant areas...
But the SSPX are schismatic and evil and wrong and horrible.

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(08-31-2011, 05:09 PM)CollegeCatholic Wrote: [ -> ]But the SSPX are schismatic and evil and wrong and horrible.

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V-Vetus?  Is that you?
These are not Catholics.  Let's pray for them that they see the error of their ways and that if they don't, they promptly follow suit with Luther and declare openly their independence from the Church Christ established so that their flocks aren't anymore confused than they already are.
The only ones who need reform are the Austrian cleric's themselves!!!
They have placed their cause in the hands of the patron saint of disobedience:

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The Seraph Lucifer

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Georg Von Trapp ought to go back to Austria and throw these malcontents out...
(08-31-2011, 05:16 PM)cgraye Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-31-2011, 05:09 PM)CollegeCatholic Wrote: [ -> ]But the SSPX are schismatic and evil and wrong and horrible.

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V-Vetus?  Is that you?

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(08-31-2011, 06:30 PM)salus Wrote: [ -> ]The only ones who need reform are the Austrian cleric's themselves!!!

THIS.
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