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Pope 'exorcised two men in the Vatican', claims new book
By Nick Squires, Rome, The Telegraph 06 Feb 2012

Pope Benedict unwittingly performed an exorcism of two men possessed by the Devil in the very heart of the Vatican, according to the Catholic Church's best-known exorcist, Father Gabriele Amorth.

In a new book, Father Amorth, the exorcist for the diocese of Rome, gives a bizarre account of how he and two assistants brought a pair of "possessed" Italian men to one of the Pope's weekly audiences in St Peter's Square in May 2009. In his book, "The Last Exorcist – My Fight Against Satan", he claimed the mere presence of the pontiff cured the men of their demonic afflictions.

Father Amorth said his two female assistants escorted the two men into St Peter's Square as the Pope was driven between crowds of faithful in the white "Popemobile" jeep. The women managed to obtain seats for the two men in an area of seating normally reserved for the disabled. As the Pope approached them, the men, identified only as Marco and Giovanni, began to act strangely, Father Amorth wrote. He described how they trembled and how their teeth chattered.

When one of the assistants asked Giovanni to control himself, he said "I am not Giovanni" in a voice that was not his own, Father Amorth claimed. As soon as the Pope stepped down from the "Popemobile' the two men flung themselves to the floor.

"They banged their heads on the ground. The Swiss Guards watched them but did nothing," the priest wrote. "Giovanni and Marco started to wail at the same time, they were lying on the floor, howling. "They were trembling, slobbering, working themselves into a frenzy.

"The Pope watched from a distance. He raised an arm and blessed the four of them. For the possessed it was like a furious jolt - a blow to their whole bodies - to the extent that they were thrown three metres backwards," he continued. "They stopped howling but they cried uncontrollably."

Father Amorth, who claims to have conducted thousands of exorcisms, wrote: "It is no mystery that the Pope's acts and words can enrage Satan...that simply the presence of the Pope can sooth and in some way help the possessed in their fight against the one who possesses them."...

See full article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...-book.html
Yeah, I don't get this.

What was Fr. Amorth up to? Was he doing some testing on the possessed men, seeing what a blessing from the Pope would do?

On top of that, the Vatican is saying that Pope Benedict did not notice the men like Fr. Amorth is claiming.

This does a lot of harm to Fr. Amorth, IMHO. I could be way off here, but it just seems fishy to me.
There's no difficulty here, presuming the account is correct.

The action is objective. In an objective way the Vicar of Christ on Earth, disregarding what our 'feelings' are about any of his orientations towards Modernism, will of necessity cause the Evil One and those afflicted by his pestilence much anger.  Let's face it even an inanimate sacramental like Holy Water will cause them blight. It's nothing personal.
(02-07-2012, 08:57 AM)Remegius Wrote: [ -> ]There's no difficulty here, presuming the account is correct.

The action is objective. In an objective way the Vicar of Christ on Earth, disregarding what our 'feelings' are about any of his orientations towards Modernism, will of necessity cause the Evil One and those afflicted by his pestilence much anger.  Let's face it even an inanimate sacramental like Holy Water will cause them blight. It's nothing personal.

That's not what I was referring to...

Why did Fr. Amorth do what he did? That is, why did he "stage" this without the knowledge of the Pope?

And I'm not criticizing Fr. Amorth. I just find it extremely curious and experimental.
The Vatican's spokesman, Federico Lombardi, has disputed this account, so I'm not sure what to think.
(02-07-2012, 10:05 AM)damooster Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2012, 08:57 AM)Remegius Wrote: [ -> ]There's no difficulty here, presuming the account is correct.

The action is objective. In an objective way the Vicar of Christ on Earth, disregarding what our 'feelings' are about any of his orientations towards Modernism, will of necessity cause the Evil One and those afflicted by his pestilence much anger.  Let's face it even an inanimate sacramental like Holy Water will cause them blight. It's nothing personal.

That's not what I was referring to...

Why did Fr. Amorth do what he did? That is, why did he "stage" this without the knowledge of the Pope?

And I'm not criticizing Fr. Amorth. I just find it extremely curious and experimental.

Presumably, he was attempting to heal them of their affliction.  He does strike one as rather goofy sometimes, but then he has been fighting demons a long time; he is bound to not be entirely normal.
cool story.  I'm proud of both men!

From the UK's Telegraph:



Pope 'exorcised two men in the Vatican', claims new book
Pope Benedict unwittingly performed an exorcism of two men possessed by the Devil in the very heart of the Vatican, according to the Catholic Church's best-known exorcist, Father Gabriele Amorth.



In a new book, Father Amorth, the exorcist for the diocese of Rome, gives a bizarre account of how he and two assistants brought a pair of "possessed" Italian men to one of the Pope's weekly audiences in St Peter's Square in May 2009.

In his book, "The Last Exorcist – My Fight Against Satan", he claimed the mere presence of the pontiff cured the men of their demonic afflictions.

Father Amorth said his two female assistants escorted the two men into St Peter's Square as the Pope was driven between crowds of faithful in the white "Popemobile" jeep.

The women managed to obtain seats for the two men in an area of seating normally reserved for the disabled.

As the Pope approached them, the men, identified only as Marco and Giovanni, began to act strangely, Father Amorth wrote.
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He described how they trembled and how their teeth chattered.

When one of the assistants asked Giovanni to control himself, he said "I am not Giovanni" in a voice that was not his own, Father Amorth claimed.

As soon as the Pope stepped down from the "Popemobile' the two men flung themselves to the floor.

"They banged their heads on the ground. The Swiss Guards watched them but did nothing," the priest wrote.

"Giovanni and Marco started to wail at the same time, they were lying on the floor, howling.

"They were trembling, slobbering, working themselves into a frenzy.

"The Pope watched from a distance. He raised an arm and blessed the four of them. For the possessed it was like a furious jolt - a blow to their whole bodies - to the extent that they were thrown three metres backwards," he continued.

"They stopped howling but they cried uncontrollably."

Father Amorth, who claims to have conducted thousands of exorcisms, wrote: "It is no mystery that the Pope's acts and words can enrage Satan...that simply the presence of the Pope can sooth and in some way help the possessed in their fight against the one who possesses them."

Federico Lombardi, the Vatican's spokesman, disputed the account, saying Benedict was not aware of the men's afflictions and had not intended to carry out an exorcism.

Father Amorth is a controversial figure whose outspoken views have embarrassed the Vatican in the past.

In November he branded yoga as "evil", claiming that it leads to a worship of Hinduism and other Eastern religions based on "a false belief in reincarnation".

He has also railed against Harry Potter, saying the children's books seem innocuous but in fact encourage children to believe in black magic and wizardry.

The Devil "studies every one of us and our tendencies towards good and evil," said Father Amorth, whose new book is sub-titled: "It's not me who is frightened of the Devil, it is he who is frightened of me".
If Benedict XVI did it unwittingly, John Paul II did it wittingly several times.

That was one of the few good things about the late pope.
(02-07-2012, 08:57 AM)Remegius Wrote: [ -> ]The action is objective. In an objective way the Vicar of Christ on Earth, disregarding what our 'feelings' are about any of his orientations towards Modernism, will of necessity cause the Evil One and those afflicted by his pestilence much anger.  Let's face it even an inanimate sacramental like Holy Water will cause them blight. It's nothing personal.

Yet Satan was surely quite pleased when Paul VI allowed his smoke to enter through some fissure in the Church after Vatican II.
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