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Rumored new doctrinal czar has liberation theology ties
by John L Allen Jr
Feb. 28, 2012

http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/rum...ology-ties

"Although speculation about who’s in line for top Vatican jobs is a favorite indoor sport in Catholicism, usually to be taken with a grain of salt, you can sometimes tell a rumor is serious when pot shots start falling on the would-be nominee.

By that standard, Bishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller of Regensburg, Germany, has to be considered a hot tip for the next prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican’s powerful doctrine office currently headed by American Cardinal William Levada.

Levada will turn 76 in June, and it’s long been rumored that Müller, 64, is a top candidate to take over. This week, traditionalist Catholics in Italy began circulating e-mails suggesting that Müller, a member of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and a lifelong friend of Pope Benedict XVI, is not a man of “secure doctrine.”

Specifically, the e-mails faulted Müller for espousing suspect positions on the virginity of Mary (which he said in a 2003 book shouldn’t be understood in a “physiological” sense), the Eucharist (Müller has apparently counseled against using the term “body and blood of Christ” to describe the consecrated bread and wine at Mass), and ecumenism (last October, Müller declared that Protestants are “already part of the church” founded by Christ.)

Whatever evaluation one makes of those points, the e-mails suggest that rumors around Müller’s possible appointment have set off alarms in traditionalist circles.

Müller has long been something of a paradox. In Germany, he’s seen as a staunch defender of Catholic orthodoxy, often at odds with the liberal reform group “We Are Church”, and he clearly enjoys papal favor.

Aside from the fact that Müller is the bishop of the pope’s home diocese, where Benedict’s brother Geörg still resides, he’s also the editor of Benedict’s “Opera Omnia,” a comprehensive collection of all the pope’s writings.

Müller himself is a prolific author, having written more than 400 works on a wide variety of theological topics.

Despite his broadly conservative reputation, Müller actually earned his doctorate in 1977 under then-Fr. Karl Lehmann, who went on to become the cardinal of Mainz and the leader of the moderate wing of the German bishops’ conference. Müller’s dissertation was on the famed German Protestant theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

Moreover, Müller is a close personal friend of the renowned Peruvian theologian Gustavo Gutiérrez, considered the father of liberation theology. Every year since 1998, Müller has travelled to Peru to take a course from Gutiérrez, and has spent time living with farmers in a rural parish near the border with Bolivia.

In 2008, he accepted an honorary doctorate from the Pontifical Catholic University of Peru, which is widely seen as a bastion of the progressive wing of the Peruvian church. On the occasion, he praised Guttierez and defended his theology.

“The theology of Gustavo Gutiérrez, independently of how you look at it, is orthodox because it is orthopractic,” he said. “It teaches us the correct way of acting in a Christian fashion since it comes from true faith.”

In the same speech, Müller described "neo-liberal capitalism" as the "infamy of our age."

All that suggests the church might be in for some surprises should Müller indeed inherit the Vatican’s top doctrinal job."
The title is worrying, but I'll hold off really worrying and just see what happens.
Sounds like a big tent church liberal.
The "conservative reputation" was made up by the German media, because the German media thinks that anyone, who is authoritarian is automatically conservative.
Bishop Müller is very authoritarian and attacks anyone who disagrees with him. He attacks both the SSPX and "We are Church" constantly. The latter led to the media calling him conservative.

According to him "the only dialogue with the SSPX I would agree to is giving them catechism lessons".
Quote:Specifically, the e-mails faulted Müller for espousing suspect positions on the virginity of Mary (which he said in a 2003 book shouldn’t be understood in a “physiological” sense), the Eucharist (Müller has apparently counseled against using the term “body and blood of Christ” to describe the consecrated bread and wine at Mass), and ecumenism (last October, Müller declared that Protestants are “already part of the church” founded by Christ.)

If these accusations are true, this guy should be on the chopping block for excommunication, not facing a promotion to head of the CDF.

Although considering this is "just" a rumor, we can hold out hope that he won't get the job.  For now.
(02-28-2012, 06:43 PM)Mithrandylan Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Specifically, the e-mails faulted Müller for espousing suspect positions on the virginity of Mary (which he said in a 2003 book shouldn’t be understood in a “physiological” sense), the Eucharist (Müller has apparently counseled against using the term “body and blood of Christ” to describe the consecrated bread and wine at Mass), and ecumenism (last October, Müller declared that Protestants are “already part of the church” founded by Christ.)

If these accusations are true, this guy should be on the chopping block for excommunication, not facing a promotion to head of the CDF.

Although considering this is "just" a rumor, we can hold out hope that he won't get the job.  For now.

I think it would also be important to see those quotations in context before making any judgments.
(02-28-2012, 07:08 PM)Crusading Philologist Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-28-2012, 06:43 PM)Mithrandylan Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Specifically, the e-mails faulted Müller for espousing suspect positions on the virginity of Mary (which he said in a 2003 book shouldn’t be understood in a “physiological” sense), the Eucharist (Müller has apparently counseled against using the term “body and blood of Christ” to describe the consecrated bread and wine at Mass), and ecumenism (last October, Müller declared that Protestants are “already part of the church” founded by Christ.)

If these accusations are true, this guy should be on the chopping block for excommunication, not facing a promotion to head of the CDF.

Although considering this is "just" a rumor, we can hold out hope that he won't get the job.  For now.

I think it would also be important to see those quotations in context before making any judgments.
The first part is from his dogmatic theology book and pertains solely to the question of whether the virgin Mary stayed physiologically intact during the birth of Christ (which Bishop Müller calls into question). I know that this is taught by many fathers, but I don't know if it's a dogma.

I have never heard of the second part, and I doubt it because I have followed the squabble between Bishop Müller and the SSPX where they have unearthed every skeleton in his closet.

The third part is true. The full text can be found here. In it Bishop Müller says that  "Protestants and Catholics are already united in what we call visible Church. There are, to be precise, not several Churches, there are divisions and ruptures in the people of God, the House of the Lord".
(02-28-2012, 08:12 PM)Freudentaumel Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-28-2012, 07:08 PM)Crusading Philologist Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-28-2012, 06:43 PM)Mithrandylan Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Specifically, the e-mails faulted Müller for espousing suspect positions on the virginity of Mary (which he said in a 2003 book shouldn’t be understood in a “physiological” sense), the Eucharist (Müller has apparently counseled against using the term “body and blood of Christ” to describe the consecrated bread and wine at Mass), and ecumenism (last October, Müller declared that Protestants are “already part of the church” founded by Christ.)

If these accusations are true, this guy should be on the chopping block for excommunication, not facing a promotion to head of the CDF.
Although considering this is "just" a rumor, we can hold out hope that he won't get the job.  For now.

I think it would also be important to see those quotations in context before making any judgments.

The first part is from his dogmatic theology book and pertains solely to the question of whether the virgin Mary stayed physiologically intact during the birth of Christ (which Bishop Müller calls into question). I know that this is taught by many fathers, but I don't know if it's a dogma.

I have never heard of the second part, and I doubt it because I have followed the squabble between Bishop Müller and the SSPX where they have unearthed every skeleton in his closet.

The third part is true. The full text can be found here. In it Bishop Müller says that  "Protestants and Catholics are already united in what we call visible Church. There are, to be precise, not several Churches, there are divisions and ruptures in the people of God, the House of the Lord".

Thanks for giving us a little more clarity on this topic. It's far to easy to get carried away on rumors.
I'm quite sure Mary's perpetual Virginity is a dogma, before and after the birth of Christ.

tim
(02-28-2012, 10:48 PM)Tim Wrote: [ -> ]I'm quite sure Mary's perpetual Virginity is a dogma, before and after the birth of Christ.

tim

Yes, but the question is whether she had a physiologically intact hymen after the birth of Our Lord.  Some of the Fathers did say that Christ passed through without breaching it, but it hardly seems necessary to insist on that point.
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