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Found in this disturbing article in Sunday's Wisconsin State Journal:

http://host.madison.com/wsj/lifestyles/f...3ce6c.html

Quote:Alice Jenson’s faith took an irreversible turn six years ago.

It was Nov. 5, 2006, and she was contributing to Mass at St. Joseph’s Catholic Church in Madison as a lay person, reading Bible passages from the lectern.

The same day, Madison Bishop Robert Morlino required all priests to play a recorded message from him explaining his position on three issues state residents would vote on that week, including a ban on same-sex marriage, which he supported.

When the priest hit “play,” Jenson walked out.

“It was the first time I’d ever outwardly gone against what I was raised to follow,” said Jenson, 67.

She found a new religious home at Holy Wisdom Monastery, a former Roman Catholic monastery in the town of Westport, just outside Madison. Its Sunday service, offered by the sisters who live there, retains many elements of a traditional Catholic Mass but diverges in sometimes startling ways.

Women can lead the service and preach the sermon. Gay relationships are warmly embraced. All parishioners, not just Catholics, can consume the communion wine and bread because the service is ecumenical, meaning welcoming of all Christian traditions.

It’s an alternate universe of sorts — what some think a Catholic Mass might look like today if the liberal spirit of Vatican II in the 1960s had taken root and flowered.

“We’re doing what the hierarchical church was afraid to complete,” said Jim Green, a longtime Holy Wisdom parishioner who is gay and describes himself as “a Catholic in exile.”

The service, called Sunday Assembly, is attended by people from many denominational backgrounds but has become especially popular with Catholics displeased with Morlino or church doctrine in general. Membership doubled in five years to 335, and parishioners estimate a majority are Catholics who left their regular parishes.

Detractors say the parishioners strayed too far from Catholicism to warrant the label.

Approach evolves

Though many self-described Catholics attend Holy Wisdom, it’s no longer an official Catholic Mass.

A little history: In the 1950s, a group of Benedictine nuns opened a high school at the site for girls in the Madison Catholic Diocese. Benedictines belong to a monastic religious order regulated by the canon law of the Catholic Church. Masses at the site were led by Catholic priests, often provided by the diocese.

In 1966, the nuns closed the school and turned the buildings into a Christian retreat center. The sisters, spurred by the Benedictine tradition of hospitality, gradually made the service more inclusive to all Christians. Lay people, especially women, took on greater roles.

In 2000, the Benedictine sisters went a step further, welcoming a Protestant woman to live with them. “When we chose to open our community to Protestant women, it meant other doors closed,” said Sister Mary David Walgenbach, the monastery’s head.

The sisters sought independence from the Catholic Church, and the Vatican granted it in 2006. Consequently, they no longer are tied to the local diocese. They remain affiliated with a Benedictine federation, but they have a special status, not a full membership, because of their ecumenism.

Bishop’s request

When the sisters disassociated from Rome, Bishop Morlino asked them to no longer celebrate Mass at the site so as not to cause confusion, said Brent King, a diocesan spokesman.

“Many people had visited (the monastery) over the years, and the bishop felt it would take time for people to understand that it was no longer a Roman Catholic institution,” King said, adding the bishop “was in no way unfriendly toward their desire to start a non-Catholic ecumenical community.”

The sisters understood the bishop’s position and stopped calling the service a Catholic Mass in 2006, Walgenbach said. Priests ceased to lead the service.

Today, the sisters describe the Sunday Assembly as being “for the celebration of Eucharist,” a term most commonly used to refer to Catholic communion. However, Walgenbach said some Protestant churches also use it. To many people, the service still has the essence of a Catholic Mass.

“You wouldn’t know it wasn’t a Catholic church, except for the person officiating,” said parishioner Pat Hobbins-Kemps, 64. A lifelong Catholic, she said she left her regular parish partly out of a lack of opportunities for women to lead.

Finding a home

Trisha Day, 66, said she came to Holy Wisdom after growing tired of sermons that focused on politically charged issues such as abortion and homosexuality while saying little about social justice and the poor.

Jeanne Marquis, 68, found Holy Wisdom after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. “I needed someone to talk about forgiveness instead of retaliation,” she said. “I needed a place where I was encouraged to ask questions.”

Ann Baltes, 44, a lifelong Catholic, said she sought a place where she and her husband, Bill Rosholt, a Lutheran, could participate in communion together.

Are these parishioners still Catholic? The answers vary.

Jenson says she’s not. “Too much divides us.”

Day calls herself “a transitional Catholic,” unsure where she’ll end up. Green said his Catholic identity can’t be taken from him. “The church is the people of God, not the institution,” he said.

Joanne Kollasch, one of the three Benedictine sisters who live at the monastery, said she “is a Catholic and will remain a Catholic,” adding, “I don’t like to be thought of as less Catholic because I’m ecumenical.”

Said Walgenbach: “The Catholic spirituality is bigger than the Roman Catholic Church.”

Both sisters said they respect the Catholic Church and Morlino and don’t seek controversy.

Detractors

Syte Reitz, a member of Madison’s Cathedral Parish who blogs about Catholic issues, said disaffected Catholics are free to start their own churches, but they shouldn’t confuse people by suggesting they still are faithful Catholics.

“Does it matter whether they are errant Catholics or not Catholics?” asks Reitz. “No matter what we label them, the laws of right and wrong and of morality still stand, and they and others will suffer from the mistakes that they make.”

Reitz said because a male priest is not presiding over the Eucharist, the bread is not being turned into the body of Christ, thus depriving attendees of the Catholic Church’s central sacrament.

King, the diocesan spokesman, said for Catholics to fulfill their obligation to attend Mass on Sundays, they must attend a Catholic Mass validly offered by an ordained Catholic priest.

Does the Holy Wisdom service qualify?

“In charity, we must respond that it does not,” he said.

..Copyright 2012 madison.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
A more recent follow-up article:

http://host.madison.com/wsj/a-bible-in-o...3ce6c.html

Quote:At Holy Wisdom Monastery, the weekly sermon, called a homily, is given by a rotating roster of about a dozen people, most with a theology background.

Among them are a female Mennonite minister, a retired UW-Madison professor and several Catholic priests who resigned to marry. Sister Lynne Smith, a Protestant woman who joined Holy Wisdom, also is a regular leader.

At recent services, the speakers referred favorably to the Occupy Wall Street movement and to efforts to fight gay bullying and negatively to voter ID laws. One speaker said in composing a homily for Holy Wisdom, it’s appropriate “to have a Bible in one hand and The New York Times in the other.”

Another Sunday, the speaker noted the recent elevation of New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan to cardinal and asked parishioners to “pray for those less-doctrinaire priests and sisters who quietly and effectively minister to the needy in the world’s lesser-known places.”

Strips of rainbow fabric, a sign of solidarity with the gay community, adorn many name tags, and the language at the services has been stripped of gender-specific references.

Instead of saying “in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit” when giving the sign of the cross before and after prayers, Holy Wisdom parishioners use “creator, redeemer and sanctifier” or another variation.

Parishioners worship in a section of an $8 million facility opened in 2009 that received national attention as one of the most environmentally “green” buildings in the country. The new sanctuary is considered one of several factors in the recent rapid growth in the congregation’s membership.

..Copyright 2012 madison.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Look at the year in the following quote from the article. It is just one year after Vatican II which was the start of so much of this diabolical disorientation.

“In 1966, the nuns closed the school and turned the buildings into a Christian retreat center. The sisters, spurred by the Benedictine tradition of hospitality, gradually made the service more inclusive to all Christians. Lay people, especially women, took on greater roles.”
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Pray for their souls, but be glad that those who would not belong to the true religion don't.  How do you think all our problems came about?  People who hate the Catholic Church being Catholic, that's how.  This is ultimately a good thing. 
Quote:“We’re doing what the hierarchical church was afraid to complete,” said Jim Green, a longtime Holy Wisdom parishioner who is gay and describes himself as “a Catholic in exile.”

Yeah, it's called excommunication.
(02-28-2012, 10:07 PM)Melkite Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:“We’re doing what the hierarchical church was afraid to complete,” said Jim Green, a longtime Holy Wisdom parishioner who is gay and describes himself as “a Catholic in exile.”

Yeah, it's called excommunication.

QFT
(02-28-2012, 09:26 PM)Might_4_Right Wrote: [ -> ]Look at the year in the following quote from the article. It is just one year after Vatican II which was the start of so much of this diabolical disorientation.

In 1966, the nuns closed the school and turned the buildings into a Christian retreat center. The sisters, spurred by the Benedictine tradition of hospitality, gradually made the service more inclusive to all Christians. Lay people, especially women, took on greater roles.”

These people infiltrated the Church and were waiting in the wings for the diabolical takeover. This was centuries in the making. Is there any doubt we are in an unprecedented spiritual war?


Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.
(02-28-2012, 10:18 PM)verenaerin Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-28-2012, 09:26 PM)Might_4_Right Wrote: [ -> ]Look at the year in the following quote from the article. It is just one year after Vatican II which was the start of so much of this diabolical disorientation.

In 1966, the nuns closed the school and turned the buildings into a Christian retreat center. The sisters, spurred by the Benedictine tradition of hospitality, gradually made the service more inclusive to all Christians. Lay people, especially women, took on greater roles.”

These people infiltrated the Church and were waiting in the wings for the diabolical takeover. This was centuries in the making. Is there any doubt we are in an unprecedented spiritual war?


Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.

There is no more doubt.  As Sister Lucia warned us when she said “Hence from now on we must choose sides. Either we are for God or we are for the devil. There is no other possibility.”
Here is a video posted by the "monastery" telling their story. Obviously it is a bit frustrating to watch, but like nearly every one of these goofy liberal sects, time is not on their side. The vast majority of people in this video are probably over sixty. Unlike the truth, heresy seems to have an expiration date, and that date is almost always aligned with the heretics own physical expiration date. Although it is frustrating to read about groups like this, I always take heart in the fact that by leaving the church they implicitly admit their failure to succeed in their evil agenda. From a purely human stand point I'm always surprised by the fact that the institutional church even survived all the carnage after V2. I read a quote attributed to Cardinal Siri once where he supposedly claimed that "if the church were not divine, this council (Vatican II) would have buried it." That sentence about sums it all up for me.