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(03-05-2012, 12:01 AM)damooster Wrote: [ -> ]I'm an active member of the K of C and here are my observations:

1. I don't know why it's important for Mr. Salza to mention that he was good at conferring the degrees. It may be significant with Masons, but the degrees within the K of C are orthodox. I confer degrees often and I don't think anyone here would have a problem with them.

2. Mr. Salza's experience was with the K of C in Milwaukee. Surely that doesn't make him an expert on the K of C worldwide. He mentions nothing of trying to petition the State Officers to step in, which is what he should have done.

3. The issue with the booklet, however, is very troubling (if true). I'll do some digging (I do have some resources to find out...).

MIlwaukee?  Well, that city already has a major problem with liberals and socialists, stemming from all the German 48's that came there.  Only city to have elected an open socialist to congress.
(03-05-2012, 01:20 PM)drummerboy Wrote: [ -> ]MIlwaukee?  Only city to have elected an open socialist to congress.

While it is true that Victor Berger was a member of the SPUSA, Bernie Sanders of Vermont served in the US House of Representatives, as an open and avowed socialist, from 1991 til 2007 and now sits in the Senate as the first open socialist ever elected to that body.
I actually had a friend who told me he joined the Knights of Columbus briefly, but felt suffocated because of the implicit masonic themes.  I have been listening to John Salza's talk on Gloria.tv and it does make a lot of sense. If you are not protected by the Holy Spirit as Our Lady was--and as Peter is, then you are open to being a conduit of evil, whether you are in the Vatican or if you are a parish priest in little town of Bethlehem.

Is it not evident that we have a problem when a book with an imprimatur is pulled from publication by people who fear their business will be ruined? Where are the Knights when our Church is being mocked in the public square by Pro-choice Knights? They issue statements saying, 'There is nothing to see here'. Reading between the lines, it means that they are OK with it. If you are a member of a group and the leaders are afraid to criticize wayward members, it is probably time for you to quit.

Philippus
I have read most of Mr. Salza's works, and those of several others on freemasonry and the Church. I have also read the exhortations of the Popes against the errors of masonry. I will admit, they frighten me. Growing up in the old south, i can confess first hand as to how powerful masonry is and how deeply connected they are in every area of life. If the masons have invaded the church to the extent that Mr. Salza describes, it helps to explain Vatican II, the Novus Ordo, and all of the destruction we have witnessed in our seminaries and Colleges. We may be in a very hard place folks. and this is not just an apostasy like the Arian crisis.
(03-11-2012, 03:45 PM)Dmorgan Wrote: [ -> ]Growing up in the old south, i can confess first hand as to how powerful masonry is and how deeply connected they are in every area of life.
Were there many Masonic lodges where you lived? There are three where I live.
(03-11-2012, 03:47 PM)Traditional Guy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2012, 03:45 PM)Dmorgan Wrote: [ -> ]Growing up in the old south, i can confess first hand as to how powerful masonry is and how deeply connected they are in every area of life.
Were there many Masonic lodges where you lived? There are three where I live.

Every Southern town has: First Baptist Church( and many others), At least one Methodist Church, Probably a Presbyterian Church, Many evangelical Churches, a liquor store, and a masonic lodge. Most of the members from said Churches are at the Lodge. Heck, there are three lodges within five miles of my house. The masonic lodge is THE seat of power in most Southern towns, regardless of size.
What i meant by masonic influence of protestants is that i have read several different accounts of the french free-masons assisting during the reformation, since it was an avenue to disrupt The Catholic Church.
(03-11-2012, 05:09 PM)Dmorgan Wrote: [ -> ]i have read several different accounts of the french free-masons assisting during the reformation, since it was an avenue to disrupt The Catholic Church.

??? Beginning of the protestant deformation--AD 1517, First Masonic Grand Lodge formed--AD 1717.
(03-11-2012, 05:23 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2012, 05:09 PM)Dmorgan Wrote: [ -> ]i have read several different accounts of the french free-masons assisting during the reformation, since it was an avenue to disrupt The Catholic Church.

??? Beginning of the protestant deformation--AD 1517, First Masonic Grand Lodge formed--AD 1717.
The Bolshevik revolution--AD 1917
(03-11-2012, 05:28 PM)JMartyr Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2012, 05:23 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2012, 05:09 PM)Dmorgan Wrote: [ -> ]i have read several different accounts of the french free-masons assisting during the reformation, since it was an avenue to disrupt The Catholic Church.

??? Beginning of the protestant deformation--AD 1517, First Masonic Grand Lodge formed--AD 1717.
The Bolshevik revolution--AD 1917

Interesting, but my point was to question how the Freemasons could have assisted during the deformation when they weren't formed until two hundred years later.
(03-11-2012, 06:27 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting, but my point was to question how the Freemasons could have assisted during the deformation when they weren't formed until two hundred years later.

That just refers to the Scottish ones though.  The ones from the Continent, who knows when they were founded?
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