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I had an interesting thought today as I was candling my chicken eggs to check for embryo development.  I got to see their little hearts beating, and it really brought the life at conception point home.
Do you think perhaps part of our culture's disattatchment to the developing fetus as a baby is related to our culture's disattatchment to "the circle of life" (for lack of a better term)?  I raise my chickens from chicks (and soon from eggs),  I've killed and processed chickens, and then had them for sunday dinner.  Life and death are very real to my daughter.  She knows where her food comes from, she is learning to be a steward of the earth.  She's not just seen babies born, but embryos develop.  I don't think that she'll ever believe that a fetus is just waste material now that she's seen the beating heart of a week old chicken embryo.  She knows where life starts, because she's participated in the life and death of our live stock.
Perhaps more people would be inclined to celebrate new life rather than fear it if they had a closer relationship with the animals that gave their lives to feed them.
*More armchair philosophy brought to you by knittycat*
I think you make some excellent points. I have chickens no roosters so just eggs. Im a big sisypants in that I dont think I could kill them for roasting Blush theyre more like pets.
They taste better than grocery store chicken.  The ones you get at the store are just overgrown babies for the most part. Usually 8 weeks old or less.  Home grown chicken (if you aren't raising cornish crosses, which grow big fast) is usually older, 4-6 months or so if you're raising for meat, 2 years or so if you're raising for eggs, then meat, and it has much more flavor.

Sophie goes hunting with her grandpa regularly, and she and I field dress and butcher hog and deer together.  The chickens are small potatoes after gutting a 200lb boar. Wink

I used to be the same way about my chickens, but then I had a rooster that was affectionately called "Jerkface".  He tried to spur me one too many times and I grabbed him up by his legs and wrung his neck.  I couldn't waste the meat, so we processed him and ate him that weekend.  After that I took a different view of my chickens.

It really is a miracle watching the eggs develop and hatch.  We thank God every time we have a successful hatch, and we thank God for every meal we have that he's provided for us.  Raising your own food really does provide a different perspective on the whole life cycle, and it made me much more appreciative of the life God gives us.  Weather the life be chickens and goats, or people,  they're all gifts from our God.
Afte reading this, I think you are mentally disturbed.  First, you go hunting and kill innocent harmless animals.  Then, you wring a chicken's neck in anger!  And then you go and talk about the beauty of life as seen in watching egg's develop.  Top that with your extremist religious views...what more to say.

Just joking with you!  Grin LOL

Reading this makes me want to live in Europe, where you can still go to the market and buy a fresh butchered chicken.
(03-25-2012, 01:05 PM)drummerboy Wrote: [ -> ]Afte reading this, I think you are mentally disturbed.  First, you go hunting and kill innocent harmless animals.  Then, you wring a chicken's neck in anger!  And then you go and talk about the beauty of life as seen in watching egg's develop.  Top that with your extremist religious views...what more to say.

Just joking with you!  Grin LOL

Reading this makes me want to live in Europe, where you can still go to the market and buy a fresh butchered chicken.

Ooop. Well I suppose I ought to not mention my attempts at amateur surgery when I remove the excess cockerels testes so they grow up to be bigger and more tender when I butcher them Wink (does that make me a radical feminist too? I mean, I surround myself with so many female animals and cut the nuts off the males I don't need for breeding!!!)
(03-25-2012, 01:12 PM)knittycat Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2012, 01:05 PM)drummerboy Wrote: [ -> ]Afte reading this, I think you are mentally disturbed.  First, you go hunting and kill innocent harmless animals.  Then, you wring a chicken's neck in anger!  And then you go and talk about the beauty of life as seen in watching egg's develop.  Top that with your extremist religious views...what more to say.

Just joking with you!  Grin LOL

Reading this makes me want to live in Europe, where you can still go to the market and buy a fresh butchered chicken.

Ooop. Well I suppose I ought to not mention my attempts at amateur surgery when I remove the excess cockerels testes so they grow up to be bigger and more tender when I butcher them Wink (does that make me a radical feminist too? I mean, I surround myself with so many female animals and cut the nuts off the males I don't need for breeding!!!)

Oh no!  This is worse.  You're a radical feminist Catholic too!  I hope you don't wear pantsuits.  LOL
I sometimes buy those hens from Smithfield Market.  They are called boiler hens and they are slaughtered egg laying eggs whose egg count has dropped.  They are supposed to make good chicken broth, but they make terrible roast chicken.  Tough as old boots.

Best chicken are the corn fed ones which in bulk cost about 5.50 usd per bird.  You need to buy a box of 4 since it is a market for trade and restaurants.
Absolutely.  When people are divorced from the land, they tend toward stupidity. 

This does not mean that all town dwellers go that way, but when society as a whole has no connection to the land, foolishness sets in.  This can be seen in such ludicrous current phenomena as "nice" vampire stories and "scientific" zombie sagas.  It can also be seen in the idea that a fetus is not a human, but some odd form of accretion on its mother, or in the idea that we will not have the poor with us always, if we can hide them out of sight, in another country or continent. Life in the country obeys the laws of logic - if the hen is not fed and housed, she dies.  If the hen is not attentive to the chicks, they foxes and hawks snatch them.  Listening to the radio or television, I am often struck by the frequency with which people blandly assert that this or that problem will be solved by science.  These same people can doubtless program a cell phone do perform all manner of functions, yet for all that, they do not understand the basic law of science which is cause and effect.  This has had a profound effect on our religion, and enables people to say, with a strait face, that obedience is more important than morality, or that impious services can be pleasing to the Lord.  Remarkable.

 

I've actually thought about this a lot and feel faintly vindicated when pro-death people protest against mandatory ultrasounds. They know, deep down inside, what it is they are doing when they get an abortion, and protesting a mandatory ultrasound is further proof of that. I have hunted and killed game in the past (fowl only) and I still feel weird about eating meat even though I probably know more than the average person about how it got on my plate. We eat meat once or twice a week only and I was a
Vegetarian for almost ten years as a teenager. I guess somehow God put a deep respect of life into me somehow. My parents certainly didn't
Foster it so I'm not sure how it happened.
Think about this: in the old days, a Catholic would go outside, shoot his cow, or pig, or kill his chicken, say a prayer thanking God for the gift of food, and enjoy a healthy meal. Today its not like that at all. The idyllic scene of a cow grazing on Farmer Joe's green pastures doesn't exist, for the most part. This does

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I finally saw one of these cow pens recently. Big agro forces thousands of cows, whom God created as grazers, to instead eat corn, and the effects are disastrous. Its also no wonder my meat contaminations are such a regular occurrence, for if one if these cows gets mad cow, it will likely spread.

The quick bite in the car has replaced the family meal in many families

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Its actually harder and more expensive to eat healthy. Why cook a homestyle dish that takes an hour to prepare and cook when once can drive down to the closest golden arches and fill their stomach with the 99 cent menu? Consider how society rushes us to do things as well.

I remember from reading Fast Food Nation years ago the dismal state of slaughterhouses. Upton Sinclair, the failed socialist CA gubernatorial candidate and muckracker, noted that the butchers would gather all the refuse on the floor, the blood, guts, dirt, whatever, and package it as "potted ham." It may be a little bit better today, who knows.

Unfortunately the food industry has been quite dehumanized, for better or for worse.
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