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(05-27-2012, 11:00 PM)knittycat Wrote: [ -> ]It is possible JayneK, but I did get the information I quoted, and the idea behind it from a blog you linked to, so I trusted it. http://ronconte.wordpress.com/   This guy.  I was reading his posts on Jimmy Akin
http://ronconte.wordpress.com/2011/04/23...antiation/
http://ronconte.wordpress.com/2011/05/11...antiation/
http://ronconte.wordpress.com/2012/02/10...antiation/
Admittedly, this was on a parallel subject, the annihilation of the Host and Wine rather than the transubstantiation, but the concept of Host/Body Wine/Blood came up a couple of times.  I could have misunderstood it though.  He has a very...thick...writing style. (and actually the more I've read of him, the more he just seems like an all around ass.  It's one thing to criticize a person, it's another to repeatedly insult them, which he does I've found)

I think I see the problem.  Conte is not denying that the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity is contained in the Host or the Wine separately.  He is getting really technical and detailed about the process.  The Bread is changed into the Body  by transubstantiation while the Blood, Soul and Divinity become present through concomitancy.  And similarly the Wine is transformed into the Blood by transubstantiation, while the Body, Soul and Divinity become present through concomitancy.

(I agree with you about his style.)
(05-27-2012, 11:16 PM)spunky76 Wrote: [ -> ]I guess I'm just worried that someone who does not believe in the True Presence would use that against Catholics and say "See, it is just bread!" I'm not sure how I would need to respond to something like that if it ever came up.

This looks like a pretty good article on how to explain Transubstantiation: http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/...iation.htm
(05-27-2012, 11:16 PM)spunky76 Wrote: [ -> ]I guess I'm just worried that someone who does not believe in the True Presence would use that against Catholics and say "See, it is just bread!" I'm not sure how I would need to respond to something like that if it ever came up.

1. The word "is" ought to refer to substance, not accident(s). You need a proper metaphysical basis.

2. The Holy Gospel according to St. John, VI.
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