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“I confess: I’m one of the whistleblowers. We’re doing it to defend the Pope”
Marco Ansaldo
La Repubblica

www.repubblica.it/esteri/2012/05/28/news/intervista_ansaldo_english_version-36076134/
28th May 2012

The Vatileaks story – an informer speaks out: “There’s a group of us: the real brains behind it are cardinals, then there are monsignors, secretaries, small fry.” The valet is just a delivery boy that somebody wants to set up.” “Vatican intelligence has security systems more advanced than anything the CIA has… but cardinals are still in the habit of writing their messages by hand and dictating them.” “It’s open warfare, with everyone against everyone else.”

ROME - Who are the Vatican whistleblowers?
“There isn’t just one brain behind the operation, there are several. There are cardinals, private secretaries, monsignors and the small fry. Men and women, priests and laypeople. The whistleblowers even include cardinals. But the Vatican Secretary of State cannot admit that and has the small fry arrested, like “Paoletto” (as Paolo Gabriele is affectionately known), the Pope’s valet. Who has got nothing to do with it apart from having passed on some letters.”
A suburb in the north of Rome, a table in a bar, traffic passing by. It is lunchtime on a now limpid Sunday morning and one of those behind the flow of confidential letters from the Holy See is explaining how the operation works.

“Those doing it are acting to protect the Pope.”

The Pope? Why?
“Because the whistleblower – or rather whistleblowers, because there are more than one of them – want to reveal the corruption inside the church in recent years, since 2009-2010.”

Who are they? Who are you?
“There are those opposed to the Secretary of State, Tarcisio Bertone. And those who think that Benedict XVI is too weak to lead the church. And those who think that this is the time to step forward. So it’s become everyone against everyone else. It’s war and you no longer know which side anyone is on.”

My source is tormented, wanting to speak but at the same time frightened and full of doubts. No names to be published, it would put him or her at risk. There are sudden silences, suspicious glances. “Can I trust you? This thing is terribly delicate.”

Let’s try.

How did the leaks from the Vatican start?
“Out of fear that the power accumulated by the Secretary of State was not in the interest of others in the Vatican.”

But is money also involved?
A hand runs through the hair, eyes look around, fingers torment a ring. “Money is always involved. There are also economic interests in the Holy See. In 2009-2010 some cardinals began to sense a loss of central control: partly from attempts to restrict the freedom of the inquiry that Monsignor Carlo Maria Viganò was running against corruption, partly because of the Pope’s gradual detachment from internal matters.”

The cars in the street honk their horns. Two dogs end up in a fight. We change location. Walk up the hill. Another bar, with an internal garden, a little quieter. The conversation proceeds more smoothly.

What happened then?
“Viganò wrote to the Pope denouncing cases of corruption. He asked for help, but the Pope couldn’t do anything. He couldn’t do anything because it would create an open rift with his right-hand man. In order to keep the Church united he sacrificed Viganò. Or rather, pretended to sacrifice him, because, as you know, the nuncio in Washington (where Viganò was sent) is the most important. So the Cardinals realised that the Pope was weak and sought protection from Bertone.”

What did the Pope do then?
“The Pope realised that he had to protect himself. He summoned five people he knew he could trust, four men and one woman. The so-called rapporteurs, Benedict’s secret agents. The Pope asked these people for advice, giving everyone a role, with the woman coordinating all five. ”

There is a woman helping the Pope in this?
“Yes, she’s the strategist. Then there is one physically collecting the evidence. Another preparing the ground, and the other two make sure all this is possible. The role of these trusted people is to tell the Pope who are his friends and who his enemies, so you know who you are fighting against.”

Meanwhile, how did the leaking of documents start?
“They started to come out. Channels and journalists were identified.”

How are they taken out?
“By hand. The Vatican intelligence service has integrated security systems in the basement of the Apostolic Palace, directed by a 35-year-old ex-hacker, that are more advanced than anything the CIA has, sophisticated systems, but they’re no use. Because the Cardinals are used to writing their messages by hand and dictating them. They are then delivered by hand. And the leaked documents are their way of fighting this war. The primary objective was to attack the Pope, to weaken him and convince him to give up control of the political and economic affairs of the Church. Something had to be done.”

And the president of the Vatican bank, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, who was ousted?
“Same thing. Even though he was really close to the Pope: they wrote the encyclical Caritas in Veritate together. Gotti didn’t answer to anyone, only the Pope, sending Benedict memos to describe the situation inside the IOR (Institute for Religious Works, the official name of the bank). Including the failed operations, like the law against money laundering or the takeover of the San Raffaele hospital and research centre. Bertone gets jealous, accuses Gotti and decides to oust him. When the Pope heard about Gotti’s dismissal last Thursday, he started to cry, “My friend Ettore!”

The Pope was crying?
“Yes, but then he got really angry and reacted, saying that the truth would come out.”

But he couldn’t oppose it?
“He could have, but it would have meant a sensational rupture with his Secretary of State.”

And then the next day?
“And the next day the Pope was struck again, close to home, when Paoletto was arrested. Now the Pope is in despair. But Paoletto is not the whistleblower, there are lots of whistleblowers. At most someone has used him.”

They are saying that Gotti is one of those behind the leaks.
“Gotti is an honest person, who is keeping quiet, as he did during the official investigation into the IOR. And he is now after being thrown out. He’s not playing any games; he’s not behind the leaks.”

Father Georg, Pope’s secretary, is also in the crosshairs?
“He was one of the targets for one faction: now more than ever he represents the link between all the Vatican departments and the Pope, acting as a filter, influencing and advising the Pope.”
We’ve now been taking for three hours, it is mid-afternoon, and we’re on our third coffee. This person is very well-informed and knows the details, the way things work and the people inside the Holy See like few others.

Why did you decide to come out into the open?
“To reveal the truth. And to bring an end to this media witchhunt for a culprit in the guise of a whistleblower (the valet), a priest (Father George), or a high official or cardinal (Gotti, Cardinal Piacenza or others). The role of the Church is to defend the Gospel, not to accumulate power and money. And I’m doing this in the name of God. I’m not afraid.”

(Translated from Italian by Kathryn Wallace)

(28 maggio 2012)
"The Sacred Sacrament of Holy Orders will be ridiculed, oppressed and despised. ...The demon will try to persecute the Ministers of the Lord in every possible way and he will labor with cruel and subtle astuteness to deviate them from the spirit of their vocation, corrupting many of them. These corrupted priests, who will scandalize the Christian people, will incite the hatred of the bad Christians and the enemies of the Roman, Catholic and Apostolic Church to fall upon all priests. This apparent triumph of Satan will bring enormous sufferings to the good Pastors of the Church...."  Our Lady of Good Success, Quito, Ecuador...


"15. But against the apostolic see and the Roman Pontiff the contention of these enemies has been for a long time directed. The Pontiff was first, for specious reasons, thrust out from the bulwark of his liberty and of his right, the civil princedom; soon, he was unjustly driven into a condition which was unbearable because of the difficulties raised on all sides; and now the time has come when the partisans of the sects openly declare, what in secret among themselves they have for a long time plotted, that the sacred power of the Pontiffs must be abolished, and that the papacy itself, founded by divine right, must be utterly destroyed. If other proofs were wanting, this fact would be sufficiently disclosed by the testimony of men well informed, of whom some at other times, and others again recently, have declared it to be true of the Freemasons that they especially desire to assail the Church with irreconcilable hostility, and that they will never rest until they have destroyed whatever the supreme Pontiffs have established for the sake of religion." Pope Leo XIII Humanum Genus

"But it is pride which exercises an incomparably greater sway over the soul to blind it and lead it into error, and pride sits in Modernism as in its own house, finding sustenance everywhere in its doctrines and lurking in its every aspect. It is pride which fills Modernists with that self-assurance by which they consider themselves and pose as the rule for all. It is pride which puffs them up with that vainglory which allows them to regard themselves as the sole possessors of knowledge, and makes them say, elated and inflated with presumption, "We are not as the rest of men," and which, lest they should seem as other men, leads them to embrace and to devise novelties even of the most absurd kind. It is pride which rouses in them the spirit of disobedience and causes them to demand a compromise between authority and liberty. It is owing to their pride that they seek to be the reformers of others while they forget to reform themselves, and that they are found to be utterly wanting in respect for authority, even for the supreme authority. Truly there is no road which leads so directly and so quickly to Modernism as pride. When a Catholic layman or a priest forgets the precept of the Christian life which obliges us to renounce ourselves if we would follow Christ and neglects to tear pride from his heart, then it is he who most of all is a fully ripe subject for the errors of Modernism. For this reason, Venerable Brethren, it will be your first duty to resist such victims of pride, to employ them only in the lowest and obscurest offices. The higher they try to rise, the lower let them be placed, so that the lowliness of their position may limit their power of causing damage. Examine most carefully your young clerics by yourselves and by the directors of your seminaries, and when you find the spirit of pride among them reject them without compunction from the priesthood. Would to God that this had always been done with the vigilance and constancy which were required!"
Pope St. Pius X  Pascendi Dominici Gregis

We were warned, now we see the results.
[quote='SaintRafael' pid='1022235' dateline='1338240443']
“I confess: I’m one of the whistleblowers. We’re doing it to defend the Pope”
Marco Ansaldo
La Repubblica

www.repubblica.it/esteri/2012/05/28/news/intervista_ansaldo_english_version-36076134/
28th May 2012

The Vatileaks story – an informer speaks out: “There’s a group of us: the real brains behind it are cardinals, then there are monsignors, secretaries, small fry.” The valet is just a delivery boy that somebody wants to set up.” “Vatican intelligence has security systems more advanced than anything the CIA has… but cardinals are still in the habit of writing their messages by hand and dictating them.” “It’s open warfare, with everyone against everyone else.”

This article reads like a badly executed spy novel. So, before I make any judgments, i'd like to know how reliable this newspaper is. I understand that it's VERY progressive, aimed at the intellectual & financially elite. I'm going to check Zenit & l'observatore. If they have no news of this, I;ll take it with a BOWL of :salt: :salt:
(05-28-2012, 08:15 PM)JoniCath Wrote: [ -> ][quote='SaintRafael' pid='1022235' dateline='1338240443']
“I confess: I’m one of the whistleblowers. We’re doing it to defend the Pope”
Marco Ansaldo
La Repubblica

www.repubblica.it/esteri/2012/05/28/news/intervista_ansaldo_english_version-36076134/
28th May 2012

The Vatileaks story – an informer speaks out: “There’s a group of us: the real brains behind it are cardinals, then there are monsignors, secretaries, small fry.” The valet is just a delivery boy that somebody wants to set up.” “Vatican intelligence has security systems more advanced than anything the CIA has… but cardinals are still in the habit of writing their messages by hand and dictating them.” “It’s open warfare, with everyone against everyone else.”

This article reads like a badly executed spy novel. So, before I make any judgments, i'd like to know how reliable this newspaper is. I understand that it's VERY progressive, aimed at the intellectual & financially elite. I'm going to check Zenit & l'observatore. If they have no news of this, I;ll take it with a BOWL of :salt: :salt:

Well, Zenit has an article about this, but it's not nearly as detailed. Evidently, the butler was arrested today & Pope Benedict loved this man & his family & Is just torn up about it. I have been worried about the Pope's life for quite a while. He has many enemies inside & outside the Vatican. I put his picture (A Small one) on my computer wallpaper to remind me to pray for him every day.
Pope Benedict XVI lept to my mind tonight  reciting Completorium.

Lectio brevis
1 Pet 5:8-9
Fratres: Sóbrii estóte, et vigiláte: quia adversárius vester diábolus
tamquam leo rúgiens círcuit, quærens quem dévoret: cui resístite fortes in fide.
V. Tu autem Dómine miserére nobis.
R. Deo grátias.
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Short reading
1 Pet 5:8-9
Brothers: Be sober and watch: because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, goeth about seeking whom he may devour. Whom resist ye, strong in faith.
V. But thou, O Lord, have mercy upon us.
R. Thanks be to God.

tim

This is going to get ugly. Real ugly. The media and their evil puppetmasters are going to have a field day with this. The caricature of the Vatican as a dubious, ominous entity is going to be exacerbated. The media has been waiting for a story like this for a long time. Time to step up to the plate Church Militant.




Pray for the Holy Father. He appears to be under a well timed and organized attack, which some believe is in large part due to his insistence on opening the gate of the citadel to the SSPX, which are the enemy of his enemies. Some now are even calling for his resignation.
(05-28-2012, 09:35 PM)Might_4_Right Wrote: [ -> ]Pray for the Holy Father. He appears to be under a well timed and organized attack, which some believe is in large part due to his insistence on opening the gate of the citadel to the SSPX, which are the enemy of his enemies. Some now are even calling for his resignation.
Boy, this sounds awfully familiar. Calling for his resignation........... Windswept House, anyone?
(05-28-2012, 05:27 PM)SaintRafael Wrote: [ -> ]The Pope was crying?
“Yes, but then he got really angry and reacted, saying that the truth would come out.”

But he couldn’t oppose it?
“He could have, but it would have meant a sensational rupture with his Secretary of State.”

If true, this is evidence of the insanity of prelates including the Pope.  You don't want to root out corruption because it'll look bad?  As if declaring LeFebvre excommunicated looked good to anyone with common sense? 

So, I doubt that is the whole picture. 

I suspect there is something else.  No Pope who knows the power of the papacy would be worried about a "sensational rupture" with the by then, former Secretary of State on his way to a monastery unless the Secretary of State has something on him that he doesn't want to let out. 

John XXIII was considered naive, theologically ignorant and did some pastorally stupid things.  But the sheer power of the papacy enabled him to set in motion a chain of events that would change the entire world. 

I don't care what "rupture" with one man would be, the Pope is the Pope and if (remember If)  he's got something in his closet, that he's being blackmailed with, then get it out in the open and get back to doing the work of the Church. 

It's more than don't flee for fear of the wolves Holy Father,  Don't fear the wolves at all.  Fear God and het Him take care of it.
(05-28-2012, 10:51 PM)JMartyr Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-28-2012, 09:35 PM)Might_4_Right Wrote: [ -> ]Pray for the Holy Father. He appears to be under a well timed and organized attack, which some believe is in large part due to his insistence on opening the gate of the citadel to the SSPX, which are the enemy of his enemies. Some now are even calling for his resignation.
Boy, this sounds awfully familiar. Calling for his resignation........... Windswept House, anyone?

Well now I'm glad I picked up a copy of Windswept House recently.  It's bound to be more interesting than most of the news articles I've read about this story so far.
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