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Sometimes I wonderd why so many young people, who are in so many aspects modern people, love Traditional Mass so much.

Why don't they like the more 'modern' Mass, where they can have a happy-meal-together experience?

Same question: why do so many young people become 'reborn christians' and celebrate their newly found religion in pentecostal communities singing like: "Jesus He loves me, He is my Saviour, Alleluia!"

The modern semi-socialist religion we had in the Netherlands from the sixties on, is over and out now. We are not attending Mass to hear all kind of preaching about social justice (which is of course not unimportant) but we want to hear about Jesus Christ and our personal relationship with Him and the Lord redeeming me from my sins.

Isn't it so, that a lot of Catholics live and pray from a personal relationship with Jesus, and experience deeply that He touches our heart, our soul, and thus celebrate liturgy not just as gift from Christ and the Church to me, but also as a personal thanksgiving for Him loving me, and forgiving all my sins, even while I am so unworthy?

Modern (OF) Mass is more than once not at all appealing to that inner relation with the Lord, is focussed on community feeings we don't really want in that intensity, and so, people quit... while Traditional Mass, with the deep adoration, the deep bowing while confessing our sins, the feeling that I am really unworthy but loved so much by Him while kneeling at the altar rail for Holy Communion, is... the deepest intimite contact with God we can ever experience on earth? That is what I hear from the parishioners who feel the difference between the OF and the EF in our chrurch... and that is what I also experience.

In fact, isn't the Tridentine Mass much more apt to the need of catholics wanting to live with a real relationship with Jesus, because form and content are so much more touching the soul of the individual, without all the nonsense and distracting blahblah of so called modern Mass, where the simple Corpus Christi we receive is too open for all kind of social talk, instead of the "Corpus Domini nostri Jesu Christi custodiat animam tuam in vitam aeternam", where we feel, deep down on our knees, that He is really present in our soul, preparing us for eternal life, where I will be with Him, my personal goal?
It is certainly my personal experience that the traditional Mass is far more emotionally satisfying than than the new one.  And that plays a role in my decision to attend it when I can. 

I have encountered people outside of traditional Catholicism who accept subjective reasons like this, but reject any suggestion that there are objective reasons to prefer the TLM.
Yep the subjective reasons, as Jayne has said come into that decision to assisst at the TLM. This "personal' Jesus comes from the modern Evangelical idea of being saved, which has saturated the Christian religious segment of society. All of that said the TLM is so much more in that it teaches much more clearly the Faith. Participating at the TLM even if you don't know Latin enters your soul and teaches in a language the soul understands but the mind does not. This was well known and taught before the cataclysm. It is not magical but is spiritual as in the Holy Ghost in operation. We knew by the act of being there something Miraculous was going on in our own souls, besides the re-presentation in an un-bloody manner the Sacrifice of Our Lord at Calvary, and like the Marys and John were riveted to it.

tim. 
As far as emotions go, I am much more deeply moved, emotionally, at the TLM, than at the most "reverent" of Pauline Missal Mass.

On the other hand I have actually vomited during several NO Masses, and I was not virally ill at the time.
NO was accommodating passing trends. The trends past, and that Mass is passé. That's why there is a movement to bring in the timeless aspects. The traditional Mass is time tested. While it isn't perfect, it organically incorporated answers to questions centuries ago in its formative years, which NO people have been banging their heads about since 69. People need mystery. People need clear expressions of doctrine. People need to worship God with reverence. People need a modicum of participation without feeling pressured into it, or having it feel contrived. And many more. The NO is dead, they're just no willing to start looking for the place to put the body -- and people need to time to come back to the traditional Mass without losing their faith.
(08-13-2012, 02:37 PM)Scriptorium Wrote: [ -> ]NO was accommodating passing trends. The trends past, and that Mass is passé. That's why there is a movement to bring in the timeless aspects.

This is excellent, both succinct and profound.
(08-13-2012, 03:06 PM)JayneK Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-13-2012, 02:37 PM)Scriptorium Wrote: [ -> ]NO was accommodating passing trends. The trends past, and that Mass is passé. That's why there is a movement to bring in the timeless aspects.

This is excellent, both succinct and profound.

Making light alert, and shedding light on it.

That's the Benedictine in him !

tim
(08-13-2012, 02:37 PM)Scriptorium Wrote: [ -> ]NO was accommodating passing trends. The trends past, and that Mass is passé. That's why there is a movement to bring in the timeless aspects. The traditional Mass is time tested. While it isn't perfect, it organically incorporated answers to questions centuries ago in its formative years, which NO people have been banging their heads about since 69. People need mystery. People need clear expressions of doctrine. People need to worship God with reverence. People need a modicum of participation without feeling pressured into it, or having it feel contrived. And many more. The NO is dead, they're just no willing to start looking for the place to put the body -- and people need to time to come back to the traditional Mass without losing their faith.
The Catholic Mass is perfect as it is the action of Christ which is always perfect.
(08-13-2012, 03:33 PM)Old Salt Wrote: [ -> ]The Catholic Mass is perfect as it is the action of Christ which is always perfect.

I think you know what I mean. It is not beyond revision and addition. It isn't "canonized" in every aspect. It shouldn't be consigned to the dumpsters as the revolutionaries did, but we shouldn't also allow it to become petrified, static, and some museum piece we observe and awe over on Sundays. It should be allowed to undergo organic development.
(08-13-2012, 03:06 PM)JayneK Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-13-2012, 02:37 PM)Scriptorium Wrote: [ -> ]NO was accommodating passing trends. The trends past, and that Mass is passé. That's why there is a movement to bring in the timeless aspects.

This is excellent, both succinct and profound.

Agreed.
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