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Our Lady of Good Success's apparitions to Mother Mariana in Ecuador in 1582-1634 are the most precise, prophetic, and awesome of the Marian apparitions I've ever read about. This is an excellent, 36 page article on them from Chiesa Viva:
Our Lady Condemns Masonry!
by
Dr. Franco Adessa

Some of the most amazing predictions of this Marian apparition:

Our Lady predicted Ecuador would become a republic and have a president who'd consecrate Ecuador to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. That happened. When this late-19th century president came out of the cathedral, Freemasons shot him dead.

She also predicted:
Quote:[The pope's] pontifical infallibility will be declared a Dogma of Faith by the same Pope chosen to proclaim the Dogma of the Mystery of my Immaculate Conception. He will be persecuted and imprisoned in the Vatican by the unjust usurpation of the Pontifical States through the iniquity, envy and avarice of an earthly monarch [viz., by the Freemasonic attack on Rome at the end on Vatican I that Card. Manning lamented in Christ and Antichrist sermon at the mass of Requiem for those who fell in defence of Rome (1867)].
Both of these things happened to Bl. Pope Pius IX, didn't they‽ Wow!

What impresses me so much about Our Lady of Good Success is that she told Mother Mariana to do penance for those in the 20th century! Deo gratias for their penances for us!

Another very interesting passage:
Quote:Pray insistently without tiring and weep with bitter tears in the secrecy of your heart, imploring our Celestial Father that, for love of the Eucharistic Heart of my Most Holy Son and His Precious Blood shed with such generosity and by the profound bitterness and sufferings of His cruel Passion and Death, He might take pity on His Ministers and quickly bring to an end those ominous times [the 20th century], sending to this Church the Prelate that will restore the spirit of its Priests.

My Most Holy Son and I will love this most favored son with a love of predilection, and we shall gift him with a rare capacity, a humility of heart, a docility to divine inspiration, the strength to defend the rights of the Church, and a tender and compassionate heart, so that, like another Christ, he will assist the great and the small, without despising the more unfortunate souls who ask him for light and counsel in their doubts and hardships. With divine suavity, he will guide souls consecrated to the service of God in the cloisters, making light the yoke of the Lord, Who said, My yoke is sweet, and my burden light.

Into his hand the scales of the Sanctuary will be placed so everything is weighed with due measure and God will be glorified.
Many in traditionalist circles have interpreted this "Prelate" (not a pope because if that's what Our Lady meant, she'd've said "Pope" or "Pontiff", as she did to refer to Bl. Pope Pius IX), "this most favored son", as being Abp. Marcel Lefebvre, founder of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), from which derived, e.g., the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP).

In that light, the last part about "scales of the Sanctuary" would make sense: the SSPX and related groups would preserve the standard to which all other Catholic priests would compare "their" Masses. (There is a recurring theme of measurement, and thus judgment, in these apparitions' messages.)

Other predictions:
Quote:Our Lord showed her how the hideous and pestiferous wild boar of Masonry would enter the beautiful, flourishing vineyard of the Church, leaving it destroyed and in complete ruins.
Quote:It will be difficult [in the 20th century] to receive the Sacrament of Baptism and also the Sacrament of Confirmation. They will receive the Sacrament of Confession only if they remain in Catholic schools, for the Devil will make a great effort to destroy it through persons in position of authority.
My question: Is the "Prelate", "this most favored son", Abp. Lefebvre?

Thanks for your opinions
Who else?

Thanks very much, Geremia, for this post.
I think it may be. People have written TIA about this subject. They deny it. You can search their website  and read their answers.
God bless you.


(09-16-2012, 07:38 PM)Geremia Wrote: [ -> ]Our Lady of Good Success's apparitions to Mother Mariana in Ecuador in 1582-1634 are the most precise, prophetic, and awesome of the Marian apparitions I've ever read about. This is an excellent, 36 page article on them from Chiesa Viva:
Our Lady Condemns Masonry!
by
Dr. Franco Adessa

Some of the most amazing predictions of this Marian apparition:

Our Lady predicted Ecuador would become a republic and have a president  who'd consecrate Ecuador to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. That happened.  When this late-19th century president came out of the cathedral,  Freemasons shot him dead.

She also predicted:
Quote:[The pope's] pontifical infallibility will be declared a  Dogma of Faith by the same Pope chosen to proclaim the Dogma of the  Mystery of my Immaculate Conception. He will be persecuted and  imprisoned in the Vatican by the unjust usurpation of the Pontifical  States through the iniquity, envy and avarice of an earthly monarch  [viz., by the Freemasonic attack on Rome at the end on Vatican I that  Card. Manning lamented in Christ and Antichrist sermon at the mass of Requiem for those who fell in defence of Rome (1867)].
Both of these things happened to Bl. Pope Pius IX, didn't they‽ Wow!

What impresses me so much about Our Lady of Good Success is that she  told Mother Mariana to do penance for those in the 20th century! Deo gratias for their penances for us!

Another very interesting passage:
Quote:Pray insistently without tiring and weep with bitter tears  in the secrecy of your heart, imploring our Celestial Father that, for  love of the Eucharistic Heart of my Most Holy Son and His Precious Blood  shed with such generosity and by the profound bitterness and sufferings  of His cruel Passion and Death, He might take pity on His Ministers and quickly bring to an end those ominous times [the 20th century], sending to this Church the Prelate that will restore the spirit of its Priests.
 
  My Most Holy Son and I will love this most favored son with a love of predilection,  and we shall gift him with a rare capacity, a humility of heart, a  docility to divine inspiration, the strength to defend the rights of the  Church, and a tender and compassionate heart, so that, like another  Christ, he will assist the great and the small, without despising the  more unfortunate souls who ask him for light and counsel in their doubts  and hardships. With divine suavity, he will guide souls consecrated to  the service of God in the cloisters, making light the yoke of the Lord,  Who said, My yoke is sweet, and my burden light.
 
Into his hand the scales of the Sanctuary will be placed so everything is weighed with due measure and God will be glorified.
Many in traditionalist circles have interpreted this "Prelate" (not a  pope because if that's what Our Lady meant, she'd've said "Pope" or  "Pontiff", as she did to refer to Bl. Pope Pius IX), "this most favored  son", as being Abp. Marcel Lefebvre, founder of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), from which derived, e.g., the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP).

In that light, the last part about "scales of the Sanctuary" would make  sense: the SSPX and related groups would preserve the standard to which all other Catholic priests would compare "their" Masses. (There is a  recurring theme of measurement, and thus judgment, in these apparitions' messages.)

Other predictions:
Quote:Our Lord showed her how the hideous and pestiferous wild boar of Masonry would enter the beautiful, flourishing vineyard of the Church, leaving it destroyed and in complete ruins.
Quote:It will be difficult [in the 20th century] to receive the Sacrament of Baptism and also the Sacrament of Confirmation. They will receive  the Sacrament of Confession only if they remain in Catholic schools,  for the Devil will make a great effort to destroy it through persons in  position of authority.
My question: Is the "Prelate", "this most favored son", Abp. Lefebvre?

Thanks for your opinions
(09-16-2012, 07:41 PM)JuniorCouncilor Wrote: [ -> ]Who else?
Yes, exactly :)

I remember the "scales of the Sanctuary" part seemed enigmatic to me until I identified the "Prelate" with saintly Abp. Lefebvre.

I hope someday Mother Mariana will be beatified and perhaps even canonized. To be a visionary to such an extent certainly is a sign of holiness.
(09-16-2012, 07:47 PM)JMartyr Wrote: [ -> ]I think it may be. People have written TIA about this subject. They deny it. You can search their website  and read their answers.
Thanks for the info

Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D of TIA wrote two volumes on Mother Mariana: The admirable life of Madre Mariana de Jesus Torres.

TIA has a whole section of their site devoted to Our Lady of Good Success, e.g., this collection of passages on the prelate (more than the one I quoted above) and "Is Msgr. Lefebvre the Prelate Predicted to Restore the Church?."
I do not believe it is the holy Archbishop but rather Peter II, the final Pope, as the words of this prophecy fit with the worhty sheperd prophecy of Blessed Tomasuccio de Foligno among others about a holy Prelate who is elected Pope. The Pope is a Prelate so there is no reason why our blessed Mother couldn't use either word or both. Besides the Archbishop didn't RESTORE the spirit of priests but simply sustained and formed the spirit of many as a remnant for the faithful to receive and presevere the Faith. As Bishop Williamson has said, the Society is like a small lamp still burning in the Church's sanctuary. I think, until the mystical resurrection of the Church through the chosen and prophesied Pope is elected.
As a measured attribute, Abp. Lefebvre has restored the "spirits" of perhaps 500 priests. Further he having the scales of the sanctuary goes to all the rest of the priests not in the SSPX as wanting in some manner. I wouldn't go down that road it leads to no church except the SSPX.  If he must be a prelate and not a Bishop or a Pope the better fit is Fr. Gruner and his Apostolate which has restored the spirits of hundreds of thousands of priests and Bishops around the world.

Like GodFirst I think it refers to the Pope of Apocalypse 12, and the prophecy of S. Malachi of Armagh, where he calls him Peter the Roman, that leads the Church in times of devasting Tribulations and feed the entire flock. it's very hard to see Abp. Lefebvre as that prelate, except in some very narrow way.

tim
(09-17-2012, 04:58 AM)GodFirst Wrote: [ -> ]I do not believe it is the holy Archbishop but rather Peter II, the final Pope, as the words of this prophecy fit with the worhty sheperd prophecy of Blessed Tomasuccio de Foligno among others about a holy Prelate who is elected Pope. The Pope is a Prelate so there is no reason why our blessed Mother couldn't use either word or both. Besides the Archbishop didn't RESTORE the spirit of priests but simply sustained and formed the spirit of many as a remnant for the faithful to receive and presevere the Faith. As Bishop Williamson has said, the Society is like a small lamp still burning in the Church's sanctuary. I think, until the mystical resurrection of the Church through the chosen and prophesied Pope is elected.

Well, do you have an idea who that would be?  What prelate or priest who would be capable of being elected pope has done more to restore the spirit of the priesthood?  And remember, it has to have been done during the 20th century.  That's over now.

The only other reasonable guess I can think of is St. Pius X, but Mother Mariana's prophecy seems to deal with a greater crisis than what he faced.

I still think one can make an argument for ABL restoring the spirit of the priesthood, in a certain sense-- not least because that sense had largely begun to be lost, as witness the innumerable defections from the priesthood within a few years after Vatican II, and the virtual suppression of the TLM.

(09-17-2012, 10:05 AM)Tim Wrote: [ -> ]As a measured attribute, Abp. Lefebvre has restored the "spirits" of perhaps 500 priests. Further he having the scales of the sanctuary goes to all the rest of the priests not in the SSPX as wanting in some manner. I wouldn't go down that road it leads to no church except the SSPX.  If he must be a prelate and not a Bishop or a Pope the better fit is Fr. Gruner and his Apostolate which has restored the spirits of hundreds of thousands of priests and Bishops around the world.

I'm definitely a fan of Fr. Gruner, but to say that he has done more to restore the spirits of priests than Abp. Lefebvre-- I find it difficult to believe.  I mean, hundreds of thousands of priests?  Can you support that argument?  You shouldn't limit ABL's influence to the Society, either; it went, and continues to go, much further than that.  Moreover, I don't think a mere priest qualifies-- doesn't a prelate have to be at least a bishop?

Quote:Like GodFirst I think it refers to the Pope of Apocalypse 12, and the prophecy of S. Malachi of Armagh, where he calls him Peter the Roman, that leads the Church in times of devasting Tribulations and feed the entire flock. it's very hard to see Abp. Lefebvre as that prelate, except in some very narrow way.

I don't see this working either, as the prophecies of Mother Mariana concern the 20th century specifically.  The 20th century is over, and we have no Peter the Roman.  Now, it's very possible that someone who was a bishop, or even a priest like Fr. Gruner, would be elected, and if such a person could be argued to have made a more significant impact on the priesthood, during the 20th century than Abp. Lefebvre, then I could see it.  I kind of doubt it, though.
Fr. Gruner has raised the spirits of many of the priests that celebrate the Ordinary form. Those are thousands. I'm measuring by heads. 500 vs. thousands. Fr. Gruner's travelling Apostolate is everywhere and touches lots of parishes.

tim 
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