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A commission of Russian Orthodox theologians has completed a draft statement on primacy in the universal Church, which will now be submitted to the Russian Orthodox Synod for approval.

http://www.mospat.ru/ru/2012/11/08/news74710/

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/head...ryid=16203
(11-12-2012, 04:27 AM)Poche Wrote: [ -> ]A commission of Russian Orthodox theologians has completed a draft statement on primacy in the universal Church, which will now be submitted to the Russian Orthodox Synod for approval.

http://www.mospat.ru/ru/2012/11/08/news74710/

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/head...ryid=16203
They should try Vatican I.
My Orthodox friend is coming over to London for a few days and I was looking for where she could go to Church.  She's Greek, but she goes to the Russian Orthodox Church in San Fran because the Greek one is modernist or compromised in some way or other.

In looking I noticed this.

http://www.stsophia.org.uk/en_sacraments.html

You pay $400 for a baptism?  What's that about?
(11-12-2012, 03:56 PM)ggreg Wrote: [ -> ]My Orthodox friend is coming over to London for a few days and I was looking for where she could go to Church.  She's Greek, but she goes to the Russian Orthodox Church in San Fran because the Greek one is modernist or compromised in some way or other.

In looking I noticed this.

http://www.stsophia.org.uk/en_sacraments.html

You pay $400 for a baptism?  What's that about?

The Greeks in these here parts have pews and organs, which are against the Eastern canon law.
In regards to the main topic, on Christian reunification:  Only Nixon could go to China.
(11-12-2012, 03:56 PM)ggreg Wrote: [ -> ]My Orthodox friend is coming over to London for a few days and I was looking for where she could go to Church.  She's Greek, but she goes to the Russian Orthodox Church in San Fran because the Greek one is modernist or compromised in some way or other.

I know a Greek who told me the Russians out here take things very seriously.
(11-12-2012, 05:05 PM)Phillipus Iacobus Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-12-2012, 03:56 PM)ggreg Wrote: [ -> ]My Orthodox friend is coming over to London for a few days and I was looking for where she could go to Church.  She's Greek, but she goes to the Russian Orthodox Church in San Fran because the Greek one is modernist or compromised in some way or other.

I know a Greek who told me the Russians out here take things very seriously.

Yeah I have a Russian Orthodox friend and he says they consider pews and organs as well as men and women standing on the same side of the Church as "modernist"...would that were our biggest problems. Crazy!
Let the Russian Orthodox learn from the Council of Florence's decree for the Greeks, Laetentur Coeli (6 July 1439):

"We likewise define that the holy Apostolic See, and the Roman Pontiff, hold the primacy throughout the entire world; and that the Roman Pontiff himself is the successor of blessed Peter, the chief of the Apostles, and the true vicar of Christ, and that he is the head of the entire Church, and the father and teacher of all Christians; and that full power was given to him in blessed Peter by our Lord Jesus Christ, to feed, rule, and govern the universal Church; just as is contained in the acts of the ecumenical Councils and in the sacred canons" (Denz. 694).

Going further back to A.D. 431, there's the Council of Ephesus:

"No one doubts, but rather it has been known to all generations, that the holy and most blessed Peter, chief and head of the Apostles, the pillar of the faith, the foundation stone of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from our Lord Jesus Christ the Savior and Redeemer of the human race, and that the power of binding and loosing sins was given to him, who up to this moment and always lives in his successors, and judges" (Philip the Roman Legate, Action III: Denz. 112).

A couple more examples can be found in Pope St. Gregory's epistle (ix, 12*) to Bishop John of Syracuse and Pope Adrian's epistle to Patriarch Tarasius in 785 (Denz. 298.).

* "For as to what they say about the Church of Constantinople, who can doubt that it is subject to the Apostolic See, as both the most pious lord the emperor and our brother the bishop of that city continually acknowledge?  Yet, if this or any other Church has anything that is good, I am prepared in what is good to imitate even my inferiors, while prohibiting them from things unlawful."
Russia's Orthodox Church will only be convereted by Our Lady of Fatima's consecration
Given the problems in the Catholic Church, what would formal unification achieve for the Russian Church?
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