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Writing for the website of the Biblical Archaeology Society, Andrew McGowan, president of Trinity College at the University of Melbourne, discounts the theory that Christmas is celebrated on December 25 because a pagan Roman holiday was celelbrated around that time.
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  http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily...christmas/
That was good. Thanks.
One other thing that hasn't been brought up in relation to this topic. When Zacharia went into the Holy of Holies, that was Yom Kippur which is around the end of September and the beginning of October. Five and 1/2 months later (which was around the time that the angel Gabriel went to Mary, and he told Mary that Elizabeth was six months pregnant) would make that around the end of March. (The Anunciation) Three months later was the end of June (June 24, The Nativity of John the Baptist) Six months later, Jesus was born (December 25)

I can't say for sure that this proves an exact date for the birth of Jesus on December 25, But if it wasn't right at that time, then it would have been some date near to that date give or take a week or so.
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Thank you. This was very interesting indeed, particularly this part:

Quote:The notion that creation and redemption should occur at the same time of year is also reflected in ancient Jewish tradition, recorded in the Talmud. The Babylonian Talmud preserves a dispute between two early-second-century C.E. rabbis who share this view, but disagree on the date: Rabbi Eliezer states: “In Nisan the world was created; in Nisan the Patriarchs were born; on Passover Isaac was born … and in Nisan they [our ancestors] will be redeemed in time to come.” (The other rabbi, Joshua, dates these same events to the following month, Tishri.)14 Thus, the dates of Christmas and Epiphany may well have resulted from Christian theological reflection on such chronologies: Jesus would have been conceived on the same date he died, and born nine months later.

It seems to reflect once more the strong (and very interesting!) Judaic influence on the early Church Fathers.
(12-25-2012, 07:43 AM)Poche Wrote: [ -> ]One other thing that hasn't been brought up in relation to this topic. When Zacharia went into the Holy of Holies, that was Yom Kippur which is around the end of September and the beginning of October. Five and 1/2 months later (which was around the time that the angel Gabriel went to Mary, and he told Mary that Elizabeth was six months pregnant) would make that around the end of March. (The Anunciation) Three months later was the end of June (June 24, The Nativity of John the Baptist) Six months later, Jesus was born (December 25)

I can't say for sure that this proves an exact date for the birth of Jesus on December 25, But if it wasn't right at that time, then it would have been some date near to that date give or take a week or so.
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VERY good point! Also interesting article Poche, thanks.