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This is interesting. One that it draws 40k. Another that the philosophy is such that it seems to try to bring about unity through common life and prayer. As the Pope put it: "spiritually lived ecumenism" and "an interiorized and spiritualized ecumenism". What are people's thoughts here on this way?

[Note that the new head of Taize is a Catholic.]



January 2, 2013 (Romereports.com)   Thousands of young Christians from across Europe the world filled St. Peter's Square on December 28, lighting up the plaza with their candles for an evening prayer service with Benedict XVI. The young men and women took part in the annual pilgrimage organized by the ecumenical Community of Taizé. 

Among the participants, half were Catholic, while the other half were equally split among Protestants and Orthodox. The group focused their prayers with the Pope on the unity between the different Christian affiliations. They proposed to live as if the unity had been already achieved.


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"They proposed to live as if the unity had already been achieved."

I'm assuming that the unity mentioned here has to do with a Taize definition of unity, rather than a Catholic one. I doubt that the Pope believes that unity has been achieved among these groups. In order to do so, the non-Catholic groups would have to become Catholic in order for true unity to be achieved.

How does one live as if unity has already been achieved, anyway? Does this mean that non-Catholics are accepted as Catholics? What's up with that?
While the Holy Father had their attention, did he remind the non-Catholics in attendance that:

"Jesus Christ founded the Church to bring all men to eternal salvation. . . .  All are obliged to belong to the Catholic Church in order to be saved" (Revised Baltimore Catechism, qq. 138, 166).

???
The Church is already One. Unity is achieved. The Church lacks nothing and is not formally disunited. Individuals, not groups, are individually disunited from Her due to schism and/or heresy.
(01-03-2013, 01:21 PM)Meg Wrote: [ -> ]How does one live as if unity has already been achieved, anyway? Does this mean that non-Catholics are accepted as Catholics? What's up with that?

Well, as far as I understand, they live in common prayer and common life, and have a valid Mass.

http://www.elca.org/Growing-In-Faith/Wor...rship.aspx
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/...ze_1.shtml
http://www.betatesters.com/penn/elptaize.htm
http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/art...6302?eng=y
Eastern Orthodox members? Are the EO bishops okay with this?
Live as if unity had already been achieved? You mean like unmarried couples do these days? Ignore reality and forward ho eh? How's that working out for humanity?
(01-03-2013, 02:10 PM)Scriptorium Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-03-2013, 01:21 PM)Meg Wrote: [ -> ]How does one live as if unity has already been achieved, anyway? Does this mean that non-Catholics are accepted as Catholics? What's up with that?

Well, as far as I understand, they live in common prayer and common life, and have a valid Mass.
Protestants have a valid mass?
I am as lost as the rest of you. How on earth can there be life lived as if there were unity if there is NOT unity? And is it not a little . . . I don't know, untruthful, all this living "as if"? And how can they have a mass if there are protestants? I imagine that what they mean is that the catholics have mass and the prots do their own thing. Anyway, whatever.
(01-03-2013, 02:37 PM)newyorkcatholic Wrote: [ -> ]Eastern Orthodox members? Are the EO bishops okay with this?

The official Orthodox stance is not to pray with non-Orthodox.
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