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1,000 Priests: Gay Marriage Means Catholic 'Persecution'
British Catholics fear a return to days of Henry VIII

By Neal Colgrass,  Newser Staff
Posted Jan 12, 2013 4:54 PM CST



(Newser) – More than 1,000 Catholic priests have written a frantic letter arguing that same-sex marriage laws in Britain would "severely" limit their freedom to promote and practice their faith, the Daily Telegraph reports. "After centuries of persecution, Catholics have, in recent times, been able to be members of the professions and participate fully in the life of this country," they write. But if enacted, same-sex marriage will restrict "the ability of Catholics to teach the truth about marriage in their schools, charitable institutions or places of worship."

The letter was signed by 1,054 priests and 13 other senior Catholic figures—nearly a quarter of Catholic priests in England and Wales—as the debate over gay marriage heats up in Britain. The letter even compares Prime Minister David Cameron to Henry VIII, who broke with the Catholic Church in order to divorce Katherine of Aragon in the 1500s. Henry VIII wanted to "redefine what was marriage," they write, which launched an upheaval in England and made life "very difficult" for Catholics. But British officials maintain that freedom of speech will be respected in schools, and one blogger has already returned fire: "Gee, we thought that marriage was a millennia-old institution that gays are only now trying to change," writes Dan Avery at Queerty. "Thanks for debunking your own argument, fellas."

Vox Wrote:  Yeah, because "wanted" to redefine what marriage was means actually redefining marriage, an impossibility. Thanks for not being logical or literate, fella.

Anyway, the priests are right, of course. They won't want to conduct a gay "marriage" ceremony or allow their churches to be used for such? Or maybe they don't want to rent out their parish halls for the receptions? Off to jail with 'em. That's what's coming. And in Canada, with the "hate speech" laws they have, even conveying Catholic teaching on the subject would likely land you in jail. Er, gaol? (what is up with that word anyway?! And what's up with that "F" sound in Lieutenant?)
(01-13-2013, 06:33 AM)Vox Clamantis Wrote: [ -> ]Anyway, the priests are right, of course. They won't want to conduct a gay "marriage" ceremony or allow their churches to be used for such? Or maybe they don't want to rent out their parish halls for the receptions? Off to jail with 'em. That's what's coming. And in Canada, with the "hate speech" laws they have, even conveying Catholic teaching on the subject would likely land you in jail. Er, gaol?
Gaol is based on the older French spelling.

Quote:And what's up with that "F" sound in Lieutenant?)
The word is French and to the older English speakers, it was confused because it was spelled "lievtenant" (v and u are the same letter).
About the marriage issue, I think widespread adoption of state recognition of homosexual unions as marriage would make civil marriage completely unrelated to the Sacrament of Matrimony.

Fornication, cohabitation, adultery, etc are not illegal in these areas, so lack of state recognition of the Sacrament has little meaning except for tax and benefits purposes.

Code of Canon Law Wrote:Can.  1055 §1. The matrimonial covenant, by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life and which is ordered by its nature to the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring, has been raised by Christ the Lord to the dignity of a sacrament between the baptized.

§2. For this reason, a valid matrimonial contract cannot exist between the baptized without it being by that fact a sacrament.

Can.  1056 The essential properties of marriage are unity and indissolubility, which in Christian marriage obtain a special firmness by reason of the sacrament.

The current laws deny most of the essence of marriage, and if they forsake the union of man and woman, they will have abandoned them all. So, one might as well state that one should get a driver's license and a concealed carry permit in order to marry. It will have nothing to do with the Sacrament.

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