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(03-11-2013, 09:27 PM)per_passionem_eius Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2013, 09:25 PM)Papist Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2013, 09:20 PM)per_passionem_eius Wrote: [ -> ]I notice the charity card is used sort of like the race card.
Not thrown around as much as the, "you have a disordered mind" card.  :LOL:

O, I get it.  SSA isn't a disorder?  And it's funny when someone's wrong?   
You mean like when you are wrong in your conflation of SSA and sin?
(03-11-2013, 09:28 PM)Papist Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2013, 09:27 PM)per_passionem_eius Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2013, 09:25 PM)Papist Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2013, 09:20 PM)per_passionem_eius Wrote: [ -> ]I notice the charity card is used sort of like the race card.
Not thrown around as much as the, "you have a disordered mind" card.  :LOL:

O, I get it.  SSA isn't a disorder?  And it's funny when someone's wrong?   
You mean like when you are wrong in your conflation of SSA and sin?

I was referring to your lol.
(03-11-2013, 09:30 PM)per_passionem_eius Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2013, 09:28 PM)Papist Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2013, 09:27 PM)per_passionem_eius Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2013, 09:25 PM)Papist Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2013, 09:20 PM)per_passionem_eius Wrote: [ -> ]I notice the charity card is used sort of like the race card.
Not thrown around as much as the, "you have a disordered mind" card.  :LOL:

O, I get it.  SSA isn't a disorder?  And it's funny when someone's wrong?   
You mean like when you are wrong in your conflation of SSA and sin?

I was referring to your lol.
The point is that you used the disorder of SSA as a convenient means to dismiss my argument. This is a fallacy.
:O

I just want to apologize if I've sounded rude in this thread at all. I just find frustrating some of the ignorance about Catholic teaching, the willingness to throw around the word "modernist" in an incorrect way, the lack of empathy for people who struggle with SSA, and the tendency for some people to project their own stuff onto others (e.g., "I wouldn't benefit from a support group, so no one should" or "I don't like the idea of sharing too much of myself, so no one should" -- this sort of stuff becoming inexcusable when the person speaking intimates that its' "Catholic teaching" to think the same way!). It rankles me. And it makes me worry for people reading over our shoulders who might mistakenly think that that is "what trads are like."

To anyone out there struggling with SSA: don't let anyone or anything said in this thread keep you away from Christ and His Church, and don't let anyone shame you for being who you are. We're all a bunch of sinners, we're most of us disordered in some way, and the straight guy who desires girls has, by virtue of his "straightness," no more value to God than you do, not even by a single drop.

BTW, hello, I'm Tracy, and I'm a bipolar person who smokes way too much and suffers from a busticated heart, both physically and metaphorically. Nice to meet you.


Just so you know, I wasn't bothered by anything you said.  I disagreed with a few things you said (or misread your intended meaning on some) but I also partially debated with you because it seemed some folks were afraid to directly refute a forum admin.

I was near 100% certain that you'd never enact penalties or a ban against me for posting a disagreement so long as my posts were calm and didn't engage in personal attacks.  Some admins might but I didn't think you were one of them and it seems I was correct in thinking that.

Seeing that pretty much everyone has finally calmed down I will take my exit from this thread and leave well enough alone.

Thanks, Akavit :)  And nah, I never ban people for disagreeing with me. If I were to do that, there'd be nothing to talk about, the forum would be boring (almost the worst thing a forum could be!), and it'd die real fast LOL So I invite controversy. Talk away! Just mind the rules...

(03-12-2013, 12:12 AM)Vox Clamantis Wrote: [ -> ]BTW, hello, I'm Tracy, and I'm a bipolar person who smokes way too much and suffers from a busticated heart, both physically and metaphorically. Nice to meet you.

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(03-12-2013, 06:55 AM)ImpyTerwilliger Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-12-2013, 12:12 AM)Vox Clamantis Wrote: [ -> ]BTW, hello, I'm Tracy, and I'm a bipolar person who smokes way too much and suffers from a busticated heart, both physically and metaphorically. Nice to meet you.

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Ha, actually, that graphic fits. The physical part of my busticated heart can make me dizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy sometimes. But then, I'm also metaphorically dizzy. Just ask around at certain other forums LOL
(03-12-2013, 07:19 AM)Vox Clamantis Wrote: [ -> ]Ha, actually, that graphic fits. The physical part of my busticated heart can make me dizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy sometimes. But then, I'm also metaphorically dizzy. Just ask around at certain other forums LOL

Actually, this young man represents the response of a certain kind of, um, sensitive trad to your self-disclosure.
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