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Quote:Two gay seniors at George Washington University say they feel alienated because the chaplain at George Washington’s Newman Center rejects homosexuality, and they aren’t going to take it anymore.

The seniors, Damian Legacy and Blake Bergen, have announced a coordinated campaign to rid the campus of the Roman Catholic priest, reports The GW Hatchet, the school’s independent student newspaper.

They also assert that 12 or more students have quit the Newman Center in recent years because they can’t tolerate Father Greg Shaffer’s ardent anti-gay �“ and, for the record, anti-abortion — beliefs.

Shaffer has worked for five years at George Washington’s Newman Center. He told the Hatchet that religion and unrestricted speech “play a vital role at a diverse university like GW.”

Legacy and Bergen say they are primarily upset about the counseling Shaffer offers. They say he urges students who have homosexual feelings to lead a life of celibacy.

Catholic Church doctrine maintains that homosexual desire isn’t a sin, but acting on that desire is, according to the website Catholic.com.

Legacy told the Hatchet that he spent considerable time at the Newman Center during his first two years at George Washington. He was an altar server at mass. He believed that he would become a Catholic priest after graduating.

All that changed, though, when Legacy told Shaffer that he and Bergen had entered a homosexual relationship. Shaffer allegedly charged Legacy with being immoral and lacking in faith.

“To have my faith leader view me that way, just because of one piece of the way that God made me, and to think that one part is responsible for the destruction of my human dignity, it just didn’t…I can’t even begin to describe the mental conflict that it creates,” Legacy told the Hatchet.

The two gay seniors are also unhappy about a blog post Shaffer authored back in May 2012, just after President Barack Obama publicly endorsed gay marriage.

“As Vatican II states, God is the author of marriage. He has defined marriage as between a man and a woman,” Shaffer then wrote. “Every single rational person knows that sexual relationships between persons of the same sex are unnatural and immoral. They know it in their hearts.”

The plan to oust Shaffer includes the creation of a video containing the statements of several students who have left GW’s Newman Center. That video, Legacy and Bergen hope, will surely arouse the generally left-leaning campus to anger, thus forcing school officials to act.

Other aspects of the proposed GW Newman Center insurgency include filing a formal complaint with the administration and conducting a series of prayer vigils outside the center.

Legacy and Bergen will also distribute a letter to high-ranking administrators. According to The Hatchet, the letter will cite academic studies connecting homophobic behavior to loss of appetite, insomnia and other detrimental psychological consequences.

Finally, Legacy will request that GW’s Student Association defund the Newman Center (which is affiliated with the school but officially part of the Roman Catholic Church). This year, the Center reportedly collected $10,000 in funding.

Last semester, Legacy presented a report to the school’s Office for Diversity and Inclusion explaining that other schools, such as New York University, vet and evaluate religious leaders before allowing them to work with campus-affiliated groups.
Wow, he hasn't got a clue.  And from what I can tell, he was never Catholic in any meaningful sense of the word.  Another example of post-VatII catechesis at its finest.

Kyrie eleison.
95% of college students are intellectual morons. A bunch of lemmings following their professors off a cliff.
(04-04-2013, 10:29 AM)Papist Wrote: [ -> ]95% of college students are intellectual morons. A bunch of lemmings following their professors off a cliff.

Well sure, this probably has something to do with it. LOL

I wish they would become centres of higher education again instead of "that thing you do after high school even if you're barely literate."
(04-04-2013, 10:29 AM)Papist Wrote: [ -> ]95% of college students are intellectual morons. A bunch of lemmings following their professors off a cliff.

This was my impression, too. I wonder if holy professors would reverse that?

I just saw To Sir, With Love for the first time this week and I think its a display of tough love at its finest (at least in a secular movie). I wonder what these young men would think of it.
(04-04-2013, 10:26 AM)Pheo Wrote: [ -> ]Wow, he hasn't got a clue.  And from what I can tell, he was never Catholic in any meaningful sense of the word.  Another example of post-VatII catechesis at its finest.

Kyrie eleison.
I was a product of post-VII "catechesis", but I was still able to figure out that the Church wasn't just there to rubber-stamp my own desires.  I have a hard time believing any university student could be so colossally ignorant that they would actually be surprised by hearing the Church's teaching enunciated clearly by one of her pastors.  I am more apt to believe these student's have no interest in the Church except to destroy her.  Why else would they go to all this trouble when they could easily just leave the Church? 
(04-04-2013, 10:48 AM)Landelinus Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2013, 10:26 AM)Pheo Wrote: [ -> ]Wow, he hasn't got a clue.  And from what I can tell, he was never Catholic in any meaningful sense of the word.  Another example of post-VatII catechesis at its finest.

Kyrie eleison.
I was a product of post-VII "catechesis", but I was still able to figure out that the Church wasn't just there to rubber-stamp my own desires.  I have a hard time believing any university student could be so colossally ignorant that they would actually be surprised by hearing the Church's teaching enunciated clearly by one of her pastors.  I am more apt to believe these student's have no interest in the Church except to destroy her.   Why else would they go to all this trouble when they could easily just leave the Church? 
Especially since one of them said he was going to become a priest after college! At some point, he was going to have to become acquainted with what the Church taught on this subject,  so why get angry at the chaplain?
(04-04-2013, 10:43 AM)Richard C Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2013, 10:29 AM)Papist Wrote: [ -> ]95% of college students are intellectual morons. A bunch of lemmings following their professors off a cliff.

This was my impression, too. I wonder if holy professors would reverse that?
My goal is to become a collee professor who helps to lead young men and women to the truth (educare).
(04-04-2013, 10:48 AM)Landelinus Wrote: [ -> ]I was a product of post-VII "catechesis", but I was still able to figure out that the Church wasn't just there to rubber-stamp my own desires.  I have a hard time believing any university student could be so colossally ignorant that they would actually be surprised by hearing the Church's teaching enunciated clearly by one of her pastors.  I am more apt to believe these student's have no interest in the Church except to destroy her.   Why else would they go to all this trouble when they could easily just leave the Church?

I went to Catholic elementary and high schools, but I think most of my classmates would have reactions similar to his.  They'd become indignant if someone told them that the Church required them to change and/or make sacrifices.  I think you (and I) survived post-VatII catechesis in spite of it - and of course by the grace of God.

But in this case you may be right.  I'm surprised by how far he plans to take things in an effort to silence this priest and dismantle the Newman Center.  The fact that he's going to organise prayer vigils outside the center strikes me as a complete mockery of Catholicism, but I guess I shouldn't read too much into that.
Someone doesn't like to have his sins condemned for what they are - sins!

What is really scarry is that this guy wanted to become a priest. That is all the Church needs is another gay priest.
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