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Pope: Shame is a true Christian virtue 

(Vatican Radio) The Confessional is not a ‘dry cleaners’ where our sins are automatically washed away and Jesus is not waiting there to ‘beat us up’, but to forgive us with the tenderness of a father for our sins. Moreover, being ashamed of our sins is not only natural, it’s a virtue that helps prepare us for God's forgiveness. This was the central message of Pope Francis’ homily Monday morning during Mass celebrated with staff from the Administration of the Patrimony of the Apostolic See (APSA) and religious present in Casa Santa Marta. Emer McCarthy reports:
Commenting on the First Letter of St. John, which states " God is light, and in him there is no darkness at all," Francis Pope pointed out that "we all have darkness in our lives," moments "where everything, even our consciousness, is in the dark”, but this - he pointed out - does not mean we walk in darkness:

"Walking in darkness means being overly pleased with ourselves, believing that we do not need salvation. That is darkness! When we continue on this road of darkness, it is not easy to turn back. Therefore, John continues, because this way of thinking made him reflect: 'If we say we are without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us'. Look to your sins, to our sins, we are all sinners, all of us ... This is the starting point. But if we confess our sins, He is faithful, He is so just He forgives us our sins, cleansing us from all unrighteousness…The Lord who is so good, so faithful, so just that He forgives. "

"When the Lord forgives us, He does justice" - continued the Pope - first to himself, "because He came to save and forgive", welcoming us with the tenderness of a Father for his children: "The Lord is tender towards those who fear, to those who come to Him "and with tenderness," He always understand us”. He wants to gift us the peace that only He gives. " "This is what happens in the Sacrament of Reconciliation" even though "many times we think that going to confession is like going to the dry cleaner" to clean the dirt from our clothes:

"But Jesus in the confessional is not a dry cleaner: it is an encounter with Jesus, but with this Jesus who waits for us, who waits for us just as we are. “But, Lord, look ... this is how I am”, we are often ashamed to tell the truth: 'I did this, I thought this'. But shame is a true Christian virtue, and even human ... the ability to be ashamed: I do not know if there is a similar saying in Italian, but in our country to those who are never ashamed are called “sin vergüenza’: this means ‘the unashamed ', because they are people who do not have the ability to be ashamed and to be ashamed is a virtue of the humble, of the man and the woman who are humble. "

Pope Francis continued: “ we must have trust, because when we sin we have an advocate with the Father, "Jesus Christ the righteous." And He "supports us before the Father" and defends us in front of our weaknesses. But you need to stand in front of the Lord "with our truth of sinners", "with confidence, even with joy, without masquerading... We must never masquerade before God." And shame is a virtue: "blessed shame." "This is the virtue that Jesus asks of us: humility and meekness".

"Humility and meekness are like the frame of a Christian life. A Christian must always be so, humble and meek. And Jesus waits for us to forgive us. We can ask Him a question: Is going to confession like to a torture session? No! It is going to praise God, because I, a sinner , have been saved by Him. And is He waiting for me to beat me? No, with tenderness to forgive me. And if tomorrow I do the same? Go again, and go and go and go .... He always waits for us. This tenderness of the Lord, this humility, this meekness .... "

This confidence, concluded Pope Francis "gives us room to breathe." "The Lord give us this grace, the courage to always go to Him with the truth, because the truth is light and not the darkness of half-truths or lies before God. It give us this grace! So be it. "


text from page http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/04/...en1-687330
of the Vatican Radio website
(04-29-2013, 02:07 PM)Magdalene Wrote: [ -> ]Pope: Shame is a true Christian virtue 

(Vatican Radio) The Confessional is not a ‘dry cleaners’ where our sins are automatically washed away and Jesus is not waiting there to ‘beat us up’, but to forgive us with the tenderness of a father for our sins. Moreover, being ashamed of our sins is not only natural, it’s a virtue that helps prepare us for God's forgiveness. This was the central message of Pope Francis’ homily Monday morning during Mass celebrated with staff from the Administration of the Patrimony of the Apostolic See (APSA) and religious present in Casa Santa Marta. Emer McCarthy reports:
Commenting on the First Letter of St. John, which states " God is light, and in him there is no darkness at all," Francis Pope pointed out that "we all have darkness in our lives," moments "where everything, even our consciousness, is in the dark”, but this - he pointed out - does not mean we walk in darkness:

"Walking in darkness means being overly pleased with ourselves, believing that we do not need salvation. That is darkness! When we continue on this road of darkness, it is not easy to turn back. Therefore, John continues, because this way of thinking made him reflect: 'If we say we are without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us'. Look to your sins, to our sins, we are all sinners, all of us ... This is the starting point. But if we confess our sins, He is faithful, He is so just He forgives us our sins, cleansing us from all unrighteousness…The Lord who is so good, so faithful, so just that He forgives. "

"When the Lord forgives us, He does justice" - continued the Pope - first to himself, "because He came to save and forgive", welcoming us with the tenderness of a Father for his children: "The Lord is tender towards those who fear, to those who come to Him "and with tenderness," He always understand us”. He wants to gift us the peace that only He gives. " "This is what happens in the Sacrament of Reconciliation" even though "many times we think that going to confession is like going to the dry cleaner" to clean the dirt from our clothes:

"But Jesus in the confessional is not a dry cleaner: it is an encounter with Jesus, but with this Jesus who waits for us, who waits for us just as we are. “But, Lord, look ... this is how I am”, we are often ashamed to tell the truth: 'I did this, I thought this'. But shame is a true Christian virtue, and even human ... the ability to be ashamed: I do not know if there is a similar saying in Italian, but in our country to those who are never ashamed are called “sin vergüenza’: this means ‘the unashamed ', because they are people who do not have the ability to be ashamed and to be ashamed is a virtue of the humble, of the man and the woman who are humble. "

Pope Francis continued: “ we must have trust, because when we sin we have an advocate with the Father, "Jesus Christ the righteous." And He "supports us before the Father" and defends us in front of our weaknesses. But you need to stand in front of the Lord "with our truth of sinners", "with confidence, even with joy, without masquerading... We must never masquerade before God." And shame is a virtue: "blessed shame." "This is the virtue that Jesus asks of us: humility and meekness".

"Humility and meekness are like the frame of a Christian life. A Christian must always be so, humble and meek. And Jesus waits for us to forgive us. We can ask Him a question: Is going to confession like to a torture session? No! It is going to praise God, because I, a sinner , have been saved by Him. And is He waiting for me to beat me? No, with tenderness to forgive me. And if tomorrow I do the same? Go again, and go and go and go .... He always waits for us. This tenderness of the Lord, this humility, this meekness .... "

This confidence, concluded Pope Francis "gives us room to breathe." "The Lord give us this grace, the courage to always go to Him with the truth, because the truth is light and not the darkness of half-truths or lies before God. It give us this grace! So be it. "


text from page http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/04/...en1-687330
of the Vatican Radio website
  "And shame is a virtue: "blessed shame.""

## Penitence is a virtue. Remorse is not. And shame is not. A virtue is a habit in the moral order - but remorse is not a habit, because it is not voluntary. Nor does the lack of it in any way undermine the reality of penitence, for penitence is an act of the will. It is our wills, not our emotions, that are morally significant - for we can decide whether they are to obey God, or to disobey Him. They are in our control, & so is their direction. Shame is an emotion - and our obedience & love are not less obedient or loving for lacking emotion. That shame can indeed be a blessing - as by leading us to good, or keeping us from doing evil - makes it a grace, but not a habit, so not a virtue.
I'm glad to hear our Holy Father talking like this. We need to be reminded that we have to be sorry for our sins to be forgiven. The world sells cheap forgiveness because it doesn't really believe sin is evil. I'm glad Pope Francis is preaching against that kind of view so clearly.

Pray ing more people hear him.
(04-29-2013, 05:32 PM)Richard C Wrote: [ -> ]I'm glad to hear our Holy Father talking like this. We need to be reminded that we have to be sorry for our sins to be forgiven.

What does that actually mean though?  Is a confession not valid because one doesn't feeeeeeeel sorry and ashamed of what they've done, even if they recognize that they've sinned and firmly resolve not to do it again.  Does the validity of confession hinge on an involuntary feeling?
(04-29-2013, 05:49 PM)Irish_Ivan Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-29-2013, 05:32 PM)Richard C Wrote: [ -> ]I'm glad to hear our Holy Father talking like this. We need to be reminded that we have to be sorry for our sins to be forgiven.

What does that actually mean though?  Is a confession not valid because one doesn't feeeeeeeel sorry and ashamed of what they've done, even if they recognize that they've sinned and firmly resolve not to do it again.  Does the validity of confession hinge on an involuntary feeling?

When you stain a coat, you take it to the dry cleaners and get it back hopefully cleaner, and then bring it back after the next stain.

Pope Francis seems to be saying that when we sin (the "stain"), we should not treat Confession like a dry cleaner and then simply come back again whenever there's a new stain; rather, we need to do something after going to Confession so that we don't sin again.

I think Pope Francis is saying that the "oh, I'll keep sinning until I can go to Confession on Saturday and then I'll be good after that" attitude is a bad attitude.
What does he mean, "in the Confessional"?
(04-29-2013, 09:05 PM)StCeciliasGirl Wrote: [ -> ]What does he mean, "in the Confessional"?

It's a little box that Catholics go into to confess their sins to a priest and have them forgiven.  Usually has a kneeler and sometimes a chair for the lazy.  Tip o' the hat
(04-29-2013, 09:23 PM)DrBombay Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-29-2013, 09:05 PM)StCeciliasGirl Wrote: [ -> ]What does he mean, "in the Confessional"?

It's a little box that Catholics go into to confess their sins to a priest and have them forgiven.  Usually has a kneeler and sometimes a chair for the lazy.   Tip o' the hat

The chair is for people who can't kneel so well anymore.
(04-29-2013, 09:43 PM)dark lancer Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-29-2013, 09:23 PM)DrBombay Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-29-2013, 09:05 PM)StCeciliasGirl Wrote: [ -> ]What does he mean, "in the Confessional"?

It's a little box that Catholics go into to confess their sins to a priest and have them forgiven.  Usually has a kneeler and sometimes a chair for the lazy.   Tip o' the hat

The chair is for people who can't kneel so well anymore.

Yes, son, I know that.  Thank you.  Aww, there now
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