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On contraception and the coming violence: Interview with Pope’s personal theologian
by John-Henry Westen
Thu Jul 11, 2013 17:28 EST

 


VATICAN CITY, July 11, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – “I think clearly we can see that the economic crisis which we are observing in the western world is a direct consequence of 1968, of the rejection of Humanae Vitae (the encylical that reiterated the Catholic teaching against contraception), of the rejection of the Church’s teaching, and the approval of the sexual revolution, which has caused a demographic crash.”  Those were the words of Rev. Wojciech Giertych OP, the Theologian of the Papal Household, in a recent interview with LifeSiteNews.com in which the highly-placed prelate related some fascinating history and projections. (See video of this part of the Giertych interview)

[html] Beyond pointing out the reality of people working less and living longer, which creates economic instability, Fr. Giertych discussed “the moral issue of spending money and throwing the debt on the next generation, on a generation which has been partly aborted, which has not met with the generosity of the parents,” and described it as “the preparation of a violent conflict between generations.”[/html]

“I am seeing this brewing, certainly in Europe,” added Fr. Giertych. “In America at least you have a public debate about the morality of extending the public debt and throwing the responsibility on the future generation.”

Children living in poverty because their parents experienced a tragedy or war, can live with their circumstances, understanding the calamity that led to their state, he explained.  He contrasted that, however, with "a vast segment of society saying we are poor compared to what the generation of our parents had, not because there was some catastrophe, but because the generation of our parents consumed all the [wealth] and threw the responsibility on us.”

The papal theologian drew attention to the violent youth protests and mass unemployment across Europe.  “They are generally demonstrating saying, ‘We have the right to receive’, because their parents received grants for their studies, they received cheaper housing, and so they have this sense of entitlement which is a consequence of socialism – somebody has to give.”

[html]Fr. Giertych warned “ultimately there will be a violent conflict.” [/html]
 

He said: “And the states are finally saying, ‘We cannot give. There is a limit, you know. How far can we go?’ And of course the state may produce money and be more and more in debt, but ultimately there will be a violent conflict, and euthanasia is one aspect of this conflict, which is a direct consequence of the expulsion of the transmission of life and the living out of sexuality. Ultimately it boils down to contraception – it’s a consequence.”

The Church, he said, will have an answer for the youth, one they will need to and be glad to hear. “I think there will come a moment where the young people will need to hear, will be glad to hear from the Church a voice which will be on their side, and a voice which will point to the egoism of the hedonist generation that has distorted society,” he said. “And it has distorted society beginning at a very important focal point, which is sexuality… and we are seeing the consequences.”

We began our discussion with the Papal theologian how the Catholic Church could defend its ‘hard teaching’ on contraception.

Fr. Giertych emphasized that the issue is about a reality that applies to everyone. He explained, “it’s not only a question of being in sync with Church teaching, it’s being in sync with reality, with the nature of the human person and the nature of love, which we received from God, whereas the Church’s teaching is showing us the way towards that supreme love.”

For Fr. Giertych there is nothing difficult about the answer of why the Catholic Church forbids contraception. “Because it distorts the human sexuality, and elevates the moment of sexual pleasure, whereas it denies the fundamental finality of sexuality, which is the transmission of life,” he said. “Sexual activity has been created, devised by God, as a way of transmitting life and expressing love, whereas contraception separates the transmission of life which it excludes, and then focuses uniquely on the pleasure, which generates, as a result, egoism.”

“The main reason why the Church says ‘no’ [to] contraception,” said Fr. Geirtych, “is that it destroys the quality of love, and marital love, which is a way of expressing the graces of the sacrament of matrimony, which is a way of living out the divine charity which is infused in the body and soul of the spouses.”

[html] He explained that “marital love is to be of the supreme quality” but “contraception boils down to the saying of the spouse, ‘There’s something in you that I love, but there’s something in you that I hate, and I hate the fact that you can be a mother. So I require that this will be poisoned.’ Well, this is not love. It is not possible for a husband to say to his wife, ‘I love you truly,’ if at the same time he demands that she poisons in her body the capacity to transmit life, to be a mother.”

“That distortion of sexuality,” he said, “distorts human relationships, distorts the entire living-out of human sexuality.” [/html]
 

He added:

    "When sexuality is not tied with the virtue of chastity, which trains the person how to integrate the sexual desire within charity, then everything is rocked. And certainly we are seeing this once contraception became so easily available. We’re seeing, successively, the distortions of sexuality, and problems on the level of human relationships, of marriages breaking down, of a violent aggressiveness of women who are discovering that they are being abused as a result of contraception, and so they’re landing in an aggressive feminism, with rage against men. Contraception is leading to abortion, because it treats the potential child as an enemy, and if something goes wrong and a child is conceived then the child is easily aborted."

Truth!

tim
I have thought about this.  How progressive can a societ get until the only way a kid can rebel is to... practice chastity and go to Latin Mass.
(07-14-2013, 01:57 AM)Chestertonian Wrote: [ -> ]I have thought about this.  How progressive can a societ get until the only way a kid can rebel is to... practice chastity and go to Latin Mass.

Chester, I know you were being ironic, but that is insightful, and maybe God's plan to turn us around. I've heard over the years God loves humor but he runs to irony.

Brilliant !

tim
(07-14-2013, 01:57 AM)Chestertonian Wrote: [ -> ]I have thought about this.  How progressive can a societ get until the only way a kid can rebel is to... practice chastity and go to Latin Mass.

LOL
I've said the same thing, hoping that Madonna's daughter Lourdes would rebel against her by becoming a cloistered Catholic nun. Wouldn't that upset the old lady! But sadly, it hasn't happened. She identified with her mother's vanities, and further dumbed herself down by using hip hop everyday language that even Madonna doesn't use.
(07-14-2013, 10:21 AM)lauermar Wrote: [ -> ]I've said the same thing, hoping that Madonna's daughter Lourdes would rebel against her by becoming a cloistered Catholic nun. Wouldn't that upset the old lady! But sadly, it hasn't happened. She identified with her mother's vanities, and further dumbed herself down by using hip hop everyday language that even Madonna doesn't use.

This is so delicious it makes my fat jiggle as I laugh.

tim
"[The birth control mentality]...means the abandonment of self-control over sexual urges; it implicitly authorizes sexual promiscuity. Society makes it unnaturally difficult for people, particularly young people, to be continent; and then offers a remedy, contraceptives, which merely increases the incontinence. Promiscuity is the logic of birth control; but to have promiscuity with impunity there must also be abortion and infanticide, sterilization and euthanasia. The logical contraceptionists must insist if these cannot be generalized by persuasion, they must be imposed by law. It has long been recognized that there is a connection between eroticism and totalitarianism."   Cardinal Daly, (Fellowship of Catholic Scholars Newsletter, March 1993, p. 11)  
:((
(07-14-2013, 01:57 AM)Chestertonian Wrote: [ -> ]I have thought about this.  How progressive can a societ get until the only way a kid can rebel is to... practice chastity and go to Latin Mass.

:LOL:

You've just described my life perfectly.
(07-14-2013, 01:40 PM)eschera Wrote: [ -> ]"[The birth control mentality]...means the abandonment of self-control over sexual urges; it implicitly authorizes sexual promiscuity. Society makes it unnaturally difficult for people, particularly young people, to be continent; and then offers a remedy, contraceptives, which merely increases the incontinence. Promiscuity is the logic of birth control; but to have promiscuity with impunity there must also be abortion and infanticide, sterilization and euthanasia. The logical contraceptionists must insist if these cannot be generalized by persuasion, they must be imposed by law. It has long been recognized that there is a connection between eroticism and totalitarianism."   Cardinal Daly, (Fellowship of Catholic Scholars Newsletter, March 1993, p. 11)  
:((

Isn't that the way all scams work? Create a problem and offer a remedy that doesn't really work, so then much worse problems arise as a result of not actually curing the problem, and then continue the scam with more useless remedies. Snake oil on an epic scale.
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