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Jovan Wrote:I don't know if this has been posted, but I can't seem to find it. Thought people might be interested. Warner is a social conservative commentator for the Scottish Daily Mail, tho' he is published in a number of papers like this from the Scotsman.

Last week, obscured by a smokescreen of distractions, a hugely significant step was taken by the Vatican authorities that has the potential to plunge the Catholic Church into strife so convulsive as to eclipse even the turmoil of the past half-century.

The distractions that preoccupied the media last week were the Pope’s impromptu remarks

On the aircraft returning to Rome from Brazil, when he was seen as “softening” the Church’s line on homosexuality. In fact he reiterated traditional doctrine (homosexual tendency is not sinful, but homosexual acts are) and, less palatably to his audience, confirmed John Paul II’s declaration that the Church could never ordain women was definitive and infallible.

His apparently irenic remarks about homosexuals were a reflection of the Pope’s embarrassment over the scandal engulfing Monsignor Battista Ricca, appointed by Francis as a new broom to clean out the scandal-hit Vatican Bank. Unfortunately Sandro Magister, a respected Vatican observer, exposed Ricca’s homosexual activities in Latin America, in a picaresque career that included being trapped in a lift with a rent boy. The Vatican, unwisely, tried to discredit Magister’s exposé and retained Ricca in post. Yet as recently as 6 June the Pope was supposedly rolling up his sleeves to tackle the homosexual lobby in the Vatican; that drive for reform did not last long.

All of that, though scandalous, was secondary to the incredible folly committed by the Roman authorities in launching the first serious attack on Summorum Pontificum, the document signed by Benedict XVI freeing the traditional Latin Tridentine Mass for all Catholics. A decree issued by the Vatican forbade the Order of Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate (FFI) to continue celebrating the Tridentine Mass, in complete contradiction of Summorum Pontificum, after an American-led group of dissidents had complained about the use of the traditional liturgy. The FFI is one of the few success stories in the decaying Catholic Church: it is rich in vocations and attracts the young, as is increasingly the case with religious congregations that have returned to tradition. One would have thought a Pope devoted to St Francis would have particularly favoured these friars.

Instead, on the same day that the Pope asked “Who am I to judge?” in the context of homosexual priests, a decree issued in his name passed severe judgement on Franciscans untouched by scandal and flourishing in their religious life. The FFI is the second largest mainstream religious congregation around the world to offer the Tridentine Mass. Banning its use of that liturgy is a declaration of war on all traditional Catholics. It is also an appalling insult to the still living Benedict XVI.

The fury that has erupted among Catholics around the globe at this aggression, into which the Vatican old guard has apparently conscripted the inexperienced pontiff, is a portent of serious conflict to come. The simultaneous posting on the internet of a video of all the Brazilian bishops, in cassocks and sashes, dancing under the direction of youthful choreographers highlighted the contrast with traditionalist gravitas and the extent to which the Catholic hierarchy around the world has lost credibility.

The alleged pretext for banning the Tridentine Mass was that it was accompanied by criticism of the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s. Criticism? These prelates cannot get out much. The world and his dog knows that the Second Vatican Catastrophe was the worst disaster ever to afflict the Church. It led to the abandonment of their vocations by half a million priests, monks, nuns and religious, the apostasy of countless millions of laymen, the loss of any familiarity with basic doctrine and, due to the rejection of all moral discipline, a massive sexual scandal. This they called “Renewal”. Vatican II renewed the Church in the way that the atomic bomb improved the environment of Hiroshima.

Mainstream theologians are now openly challenging Vatican II. Benedict XVI, while still Cardinal Ratzinger, described it as “a merely pastoral council; and yet many treat it as though it had made itself into a sort of ‘superdogma’ which takes away the importance of all the rest”. More recently, Monsignor Bruno Gherardini, dean of the theologians of the Lateran University, wrote that “none of its doctrines, unless ascribable to previous conciliar definitions, are infallible or unchangeable, nor are they even binding…”

After half a century the skids are finally under Vatican II. That is why the surviving flower-power clique from the 1960s is trying to re-ban the Tridentine Mass. It is a doomed project: if the cruel proscriptions of Paul VI and the Stalinist rigour of bishops whose authority was then unchallenged could not crush the Old Mass, today flourishing and expanding, does a discredited and scandal-ridden hierarchy whose credibility has evaporated imagine it can win this fight? The modernists will rue the day they provoked this war. «

http://www.scotsman.com/news/gerald-warn...-1-3029474
Great article! Thanks for posting it.

DD
Gerald Warner is always a good read Jovan, he is right up there with Mark Steyn and Andrew Coyne as some of the best to keep perspective against the media liberal lefties and socialist politicians.
What bad news.  I was already admiring the Pope but if he allows attacks against Summorum...
???

I'm pretty sure that the pope can issue whatever he pleases, but he has no right to ban or withhold  mass from orders who are not in direct conflict with infallible teaching. If FFI has not taught against doctrine, then they should not be disallowed to celebrate the mass.

I'm confused by this. TLM has been gaining in popularity, people love it and are protective of it. Even us folks who attend NO mass respond in latin and veil at church. I don't understand why pope Francis would undermine any movement that gets more vocations, more attendance and more people really learning and trying to understand the faith.

Imho, it seems like the Vatican does all that it can to drive away as many catholics as it can, while publicly handing out the holy Eucharist to open abortion supporters. Is that the type of Catholic the Vatican is looking for? It doesn't seem to be this pope or that pope who does this, but it's a concerted effort to keep faithful or struggling adherents at arms length, while holding the door open to only  the nominally Catholic. It is very confusing for converts to understand this. Why is the one church always flip-flopping? I thought she was supposed to be constant and unchanging. So, why's she so indecisive? All this wishy-washy policy making is turning me off of the Vatican entirely.

(08-10-2013, 11:07 PM)The Tax Collector Wrote: [ -> ]Gerald Warner is always a good read Jovan, he is right up there with Mark Steyn and Andrew Coyne as some of the best to keep perspective against the media liberal lefties and socialist politicians.

I agree, tho' I'd add Damian Thompson of The Telegraph to the list.
I think Warner is missing the point that groups like the FFI are governed more by article three of Summorum Pontificum which is not exactly a blank check.
"Art. 3.  If communities of Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, whether of pontifical or diocesan right, wish to celebrate the conventual or community Mass in their own oratories according to the 1962 edition of the Roman Missal, they are permitted to do so.  If an individual community or an entire Institute or Society wishes to have such celebrations frequently, habitually or permanently, the matter is to be decided by the Major Superiors according to the norm of law and their particular laws and statutes."

While I am not happy with what happened in the FFI, I don't think all the shoes have been dropped just yet, the whole picture just isn't clear. What bears watching to me is whether those in the FFI who wish to say the TLM will find themselves blocked, and that remains to be seen.  But I do consider an Apostolic Visitation of the Jesuits a much more pressing concern!

C.
(08-11-2013, 07:46 AM)Cetil Wrote: [ -> ]I think Warner is missing the point that groups like the FFI are governed more by article three of Summorum Pontificum which is not exactly a blank check.
"Art. 3.  If communities of Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, whether of pontifical or diocesan right, wish to celebrate the conventual or community Mass in their own oratories according to the 1962 edition of the Roman Missal, they are permitted to do so.  If an individual community or an entire Institute or Society wishes to have such celebrations frequently, habitually or permanently, the matter is to be decided by the Major Superiors according to the norm of law and their particular laws and statutes."

While I am not happy with what happened in the FFI, I don't think all the shoes have been dropped just yet, the whole picture just isn't clear. What bears watching to me is whether those in the FFI who wish to say the TLM will find themselves blocked, and that remains to be seen.  But I do consider an Apostolic Visitation of the Jesuits a much more pressing concern!

C.

Cetil, while you're quite right that article 3. isn't a blank cheque, the problem is, from everything I've been able to gather, that the FFI followed the the article strictissimi juris, approved by the General Chapter and the Major Superiors 'according to the norm of law and their particular laws and statutes.'

Then, a small group of dissidents (I have heard as few as six) got upset and wrote to Rome. Bang! The hammer fell! How long until yet another Order or Institute gets slapped down because a few members don't like the TLM?
What I think I see is Pope Francis is certainly not a trad-loving TLM only guy for sure. I don't think he is an out and out kind that wants to ban it everywhere either. What I think is he is naive and has been set up by his Cardinals that do want it gone,now or sooner.In the face of FFI's sucess at growing, a small group of, 6 , 12, 18, or so dissidents should have been handled differently by prudent Cardinals. Instead like lightning the complainers instantly over turn the majority. All the actors are in place and zoom it's over. Too fast for me.

tim
Is it time for the FFI to revolt? what constitutes grounds for a revolt?
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