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The Honeymoon is Over

Pro-abortion Feminist activists
burn effigy of Pope Francis
in front of the Cathedral of San Juan
(Province of San Juan), Argentina.
November 24, 2013

Among the vulnerable for whom the Church wishes to care with particular love and concern are unborn children, the most defenceless and innocent among us. Nowadays efforts are made to deny them their human dignity and to do with them whatever one pleases, taking their lives and passing laws preventing anyone from standing in the way of this. Frequently, as a way of ridiculing the Church’s effort to defend their lives, attempts are made to present her position as ideological, obscurantist and conservative. Yet this defence of unborn life is closely linked to the defence of each and every other human right.

It involves the conviction that a human being is always sacred and inviolable, in any situation and at every stage of development. Human beings are ends in themselves and never a means of resolving other problems. Once this conviction disappears, so do solid and lasting foundations for the defence of human rights, which would always be subject to the passing whims of the powers that be. Reason alone is sufficient to recognize the inviolable value of each single human life, but if we also look at the issue from the standpoint of faith, “every violation of the personal dignity of the human being cries out in vengeance to God and is an offence against the creator of the individual”.

Precisely because this involves the internal consistency of our message about the value of the human person, the Church cannot be expected to change her position on this question. I want to be completely honest in this regard. This is not something subject to alleged reforms or “modernizations”. It is not “progressive” to try to resolve problems by eliminating a human life.
Evangelii Gaudium
Wow.  Those poor people.  They have totally reverted to paganism.
(11-26-2013, 02:43 PM)JuniorCouncilor Wrote: [ -> ]Wow.  Those poor people.  They have totally reverted to paganism.

Precisely. This is what we're called to evangelize - and this is why there will be martyrs.
Any coward can burn an effigy.
Leftards once, leftards now.
Wow. They sound like savages.
Some nutterbutters are off the hinges . .  .Yikes!  :O
I shared this on fb with my Catholic friends. So obviously these chicks got issues with HH comments on the innocent and defenseless ie unborn.

They look like a bunch of nudist thugs.  >:(

(11-26-2013, 03:07 PM)StrictCatholicGirl Wrote: [ -> ]Wow. They sound like savages.

Very horrible. I don't know how to evangelize people like that.

(11-26-2013, 08:15 PM)Cetil Wrote: [ -> ]Very horrible. I don't know how to evangelize people like that.


IMO, the way to evangelize people like that is to first listen to them and try to figure out how they express what they think their root issues are with "the Church" (which will most likely amount to untrue things they THINK about the Church). Keep those in mind, but back-burner them while you affirm them emotionally (a KEY component -- and one that is exceedingly important in dealing with kids! This can NOT be emphasized enough!). They're obviously angry. Let them be angry -- while also correcting misperceptions along the way without letting the conversation segue into debate. Intellectual debate is NOT what is needed at this stage of things because the intellect isn't where the problems lie.  What you'll likely find is that underneath the anger is deep pain and sadness. If you can get to THAT and emotionally affirm them THERE, be truly loving, HEAR their pain, and then show them that Christ is the answer to that pain, then you can make headway. Get them to seek CHRIST first; the rest will follow.

Catholics don't give enough respect to the power of the supernatural to operate in the temporal realm. We're generally always approaching through the intellect when, in cases like the woman in the video, the intellect isn't really where the problems lie. They lie in the heart. When someone is emotionally disordered, they can't be reasoned with very well. If they can be gotten to the stage of simply asking Christ, the DIvine Physician, to heal them emotionally, if we can get them to ask Him -- even if it's on an "if You are there" level -- then miracles can happen.  "Ask and ye shall receive," He told us. He won't forsake these women, as screwed up, as emotionally nuts, and as intellectually irrational as they are. He can heal them and we have to trust Him to do that. But we've got to get them to ask Him, and the way to do that, IMO, is through emotional validation, sincere concern, treating them with dignity even if they don't return the favor, praying for them, LISTENING to them, getting to the ROOT emotional issue, and teaching them how to pray.

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