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A Response to Michael Voris' assault against Traditional Catholic Writers
01/03/14 15:53
March 1, 2014: From John Vennari



Thank you Mr. Louie Verrecchio for your common-sense response to a remarkably silly and confused attack against us by Michael Voris' Church Militant TV.

Here is what Voris' ChurchMilitantTV said about us, as part of a larger manifesto:

"It is our judgment that most Catholics should not read articles and essays such as those above by Christopher A. Ferrara and John Vennari, nor similarly themed articles and essays available elsewhere. We also believe that such articles and essays should not be published anywhere for public consumption but, rather, reserved for those capable of reading such without risk of damaging their faith in the Church and the Vicar of Christ. We make these recommendations for the same reasons that we discourage people from visiting sedevacantist and pornography web sites: they are potential occasions of sin…"

Mr. Verrecchio produced this video as a response:

  see link for video


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Please do stick around at least until Louie juxtaposes Voris' commentary on Mr. Obama & Islam with the pontiff's own similar statements.
Very well done Mr. Verrecchio.  Charitable and spot on. Now I think I will make some popcorn.
I think it's good too. Michael Matt and Christopher Ferrara are good faithful Catholic men. Perhaps Voris's increasing popularity and acceptance among the EWTN/CA crowd...is why he refuses to critique the Pope and throw his comrades under the bus.

I can respect Voris not wishing to critique the Pope, but attacking these men was despicable, just as despicable as his constant bashing of Fr. Robert Barron.
Father Barron earned much of it.

Louie does say in the video that he thought that this response from Voris could be the result of him having been hammered by traditional fans desiring him to comment on Pope Francis and his remarks. I guess Voris just will not make that step. This may be his way to create separation between Church Militant and the Traditional movement.
(03-01-2014, 09:21 PM)Dmorgan Wrote: [ -> ]Father Barron earned much of it.

Louie does say in the video that he thought that this response from Voris could be the result of him having been hammered by traditional fans desiring him to comment on Pope Francis and his remarks. I guess Voris just will not make that step. This may be his way to create separation between Church Militant and the Traditional movement.

What an illogical - petty & emotional - response this would be, if that were the case.

If this is the case, it would seem Mr. Voris has not so much regard for truth.  At times.
(03-01-2014, 09:21 PM)Dmorgan Wrote: [ -> ]Father Barron earned much of it.

Louie does say in the video that he thought that this response from Voris could be the result of him having been hammered by traditional fans desiring him to comment on Pope Francis and his remarks. I guess Voris just will not make that step. This may be his way to create separation between Church Militant and the Traditional movement.

Father Barron may earn some healthy fraternal correction, but Voris goes out of his way to constantly pick on Fr. Barron. It's beyond correction bordering on besmirching and that is wrong. Despite whatever criticisms one may have of Father Barron, he's helped a lot of people come into the Faith. He doesn't deserve the type of character assassination that Voris seems to dabble in from time to time.

I really don't care for Voris picking on the likes of Cardinal Dolan and Father Barron and then being not only mute, but in some way laughably extol His Holiness as "sounding more like the Council of Trent" (< actual quote). I love the Holy Father, but he is not someone who sounds like the Council of Trent.
(03-01-2014, 08:19 PM)austenbosten Wrote: [ -> ]I think it's good too. Michael Matt and Christopher Ferrara are good faithful Catholic men. Perhaps Voris's increasing popularity and acceptance among the EWTN/CA crowd...is why he refuses to critique the Pope and throw his comrades under the bus.

I can respect Voris not wishing to critique the Pope, but attacking these men was despicable, just as despicable as his constant bashing of Fr. Robert Barron.

Well! I get to agree with Austenbosten twice in two days! I'm feeling positively chummy with him now! :P  Seriously, while I lament the use of the word "despicable" since it's so strong, I do think attacking those guys was not a good or nice move.

A Catholic Thinker Wrote:What an illogical - petty & emotional - response this would be, if that were the case.

If this is the case, it would seem Mr. Voris has not so much regard for truth.  At times.

Again, I wouldn't say that Mr. Voris "has not so much regard tor the truth" even "at times." But I do think that his going after Verecchio, et. al., is very uncool.  Like Austenbosten, I can totally understand Mr. Voris's decision to not want to talk about the Holy Father himself -- and I don't like disrespect shown toward the Holy Father anywhere, "disprespectful" criticism being totally different from respectful criticism or simply respectfully expressing confusion about or respectfully lamenting something he might do or say.  But to go after folks who do decide to "go there" -- assuming they're doing so with respect, with humility, while giving the Holy Father the benefit of the doubt whenever possible, while not impugning motives, etc.  -- me no likey.

I like what Mr. Voris does, as far as he goes, and think his apostolate is a very needed one. I wish he hadn't done what he did with regard to the trads he went after. It's sad to me.

I hope folks here don't "take sides" and decide to "shun" one group or the other, or to operate with the gang-banging mentality of "he's one of THEM" or "they're some of THOSE." There's room for Mr. Voris's work and Verecchio's work and and Matt's work and and and... There's room enough for all of us -- even if some of us don't think there is and might cut people off.

Now that was an interesting video by  Mr. Verrecchio.  I really appreciate M. Voris and his work, however i have noticed his total lack of commentary on the behavior of  Pope Francis, and i have been wondering why so silent  ??? on the seeming inconsistencies from our beloved Pontiff.  We need clarification on that issue Michael, so PLEASE may we have it??
(03-01-2014, 09:51 PM)Vox Clamantis Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-01-2014, 08:19 PM)austenbosten Wrote: [ -> ]I think it's good too. Michael Matt and Christopher Ferrara are good faithful Catholic men. Perhaps Voris's increasing popularity and acceptance among the EWTN/CA crowd...is why he refuses to critique the Pope and throw his comrades under the bus.

I can respect Voris not wishing to critique the Pope, but attacking these men was despicable, just as despicable as his constant bashing of Fr. Robert Barron.

Well! I get to agree with Austenbosten twice in two days! I'm feeling positively chummy with him now! :P  Seriously, while I lament the use of the word "despicable" since it's so strong, I do think attacking those guys was not a good or nice move.

Well get ready for number 3. Perhaps despicable was too strong, but that doesn't change the fact that I think he was wrong.
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