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http://www.lemessager.fr/Actualite/Fil_I...-HuIvl5PAm

Quote:Mardi 5 août à Thonon-les-Bains, un peu avant 8 heures, un homme d'une trentaine d'années a commis en quelques minutes de très importants actes de vandalisme à l'église Saint-Hippolyte et dans la basilique Saint-François-de-Sales contiguë : avec une force peu commune, l'individu a renversé et cassé deux autels, les candélabres et les lutrins, détruit des statues, arraché un tabernacle, tordu une croix en bronze massif, défoncé une porte de sacristie et même abîmé des vitraux.

Les dégâts, particulièrement impressionnants, se chiffreront assurément en milliers d'euros, le mobilier touché datant souvent des XVIIIe et XIXe siècles.

Un bénévole qui travaillait à ce moment-là dans la basilique a prévenu la police, et des agents sont venus interpeller le forcené pour le placer en garde à vue. Pour l'heure, ses gestes n'ont pas encore reçu d'explication même s'ils ont tous les aspects d'une crise de démence, peut-être mystique. Selon le curé Le Tué, il s'agirait d'un "jeune musulman", mais la piste du mobile religieux doit encore être confirmée.

Tous les offices à Saint-Hippolyte et Saint-François-de-Sales sont donc suspendus jusqu'à dimanche (le mariage devant être célébré samedi côté église le sera finalement dans la basilique, remise en état). A noter aussi que dimanche 10 août, l'évêque viendra également participer à la messe pour une prière de réparation, puisque selon le curé thononais "il y a eu profanation mais aussi sacrilège, les saintes espèces (hosties) ayant été piétinées".

A lire plus en détail dans notre édition Chablais de jeudi 7 août.
Le Messager

Quick translation:
Quote:On Tuesday, 5 August, 2014, at Thonon-les-Bains, a little before 8 o'clock, a man around thirty years of age committed, over the course of a few minutes, very grave acts of vandalism at the Church of Saint Hippolytus and at the adjoining Basilica of St. Francis de Sales. With remarkable force, the man toppled and broke two altars, candelabra, lecterns, destroyed statues, forced open a tabernacle, bent a bronze cross, smashed a sacristy door, and damaged stained glass.

The cost of the damage, being particularly severe, certainly tallies into the thousands of Euros, with the affected articles often dating from the 18th and 19th centuries.

A volunteer who was working at the basilica called the authorities, and officers came to detain the frenzied man. For now, his actions have not yet received any official explanation, though they have all the markings of mental breakdown, or perhaps a religious motivation. According to curate, Father Le Tué, he was a "young Muslim," but a religious motive has yet to be confirmed.

All services at the Church of Saint Hippolytus and at the Basilica of St. Francis de Sales have been suspended until Sunday. Also note that on August 10, the bishop will preside over a Mass of Reparation, since, according to the local curate, "There was, as well, a sacrilegious profanation: the hosts were trampled."

More information (in French):
http://www.francebleu.fr/infos/thonon/th...ol-1692131
What's needed is for European men to wake up and drive islam out of europe. Shake of the delusion of religious pluralism and tolerance and start driving them out. In the Christendom of old men knew the sons of the false prophet (the wrath of the True God be upon him) were the enemies of civilization and treated them accordingly. Islam is a cancer and needs to be ruthlessly excised. What Benedict XVI said in his Regensburg Address regarding islam was true it really has brought nothing but barbarism and violence. France has the power and the authority to ban islam and drive all the muslims out to whatever hellish sandpit barbarian nation wants to take them and should act accordingly. If Europe wants a future that doesn't look like Saudi Arabia or Iraq or Afghanistan it needs to decide that Muslims are not welcome there. Luckily there are many more in the West who,although they might not be a vocal and openly anti islam as me,feel the same way and are growing tired  of the constant belligerence,blasphemy and barbarism of muslims in the West. Eventually Western men will fight back and I pray for that day.

Western man wake up, it's still not too late!
Not all Muslims are crazy people. The non-crazy Muslim people can--and should--be tolerated. That's traditionally Catholic. But that said, we now currently have a cause for "just war" in Iraq with these ISIS cowards.

Our last expedition into Iraq was an unjust war, yet it seems that the majority of the people of the US embraced it with open arms. Now, when the cause is actually just, where is the will to fight?
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatho...e-tending/
I agree with formerbuddhist. These so-called peaceful Mohammedans never call out their violent counterparts, they never do anything except see as justified the violent action: because of some violence perpetrated by anti-terrorist actions the “extremists” are justified, and even if they don't agree with them, ultimately they put the blame for all sorts of barbarity they do on other people; and so, in the end, in their minds, its only our fault that the imperialist Christian West is paying.

So, yes, Mohammedans should just be expelled: let them live in the “justified” regime of their brethren and not dry up the social capital left of Christendom.
To quote Angela Merkel: multiculturalism has failed, utterly failed.

As to this vile, ignoble man from the article: why not just punish him with the same punishment a Christian would get if he did this sort of thing in a Mosque on some muslim country? That should do it.
(08-09-2014, 07:57 PM)Renatus Frater Wrote: [ -> ]As to this vile, ignoble man from the article: why not just punish him with the same punishment a Christian would get if he did this sort of thing in a Mosque on some muslim country? That should do it.

That's not what Christ taught us to do.
(08-09-2014, 08:07 PM)Jacafamala Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-09-2014, 07:57 PM)Renatus Frater Wrote: [ -> ]As to this vile, ignoble man from the article: why not just punish him with the same punishment a Christian would get if he did this sort of thing in a Mosque on some muslim country? That should do it.

That's not what Christ taught us to do.


"For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
"
St. Paul
Also reported here in more explicit detail and with photos

http://www.dailystormer.com/young-muslim...in-france/
A bit of an update on what I said. Rorate shared this video today, of the Genral bishop of the Coptic-Orthodox in Germany.
The important point is that Mohammedans behave one way when they are a minority and another way when they are a majority. This is why we see so many "peaceful" Mohammedans on the West (even though they still justify their counterparts on those most unfortunate parts of the world).





(08-09-2014, 07:57 PM)Renatus Frater Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with formerbuddhist. These so-called peaceful Mohammedans never call out their violent counterparts, they never do anything except see as justified the violent action: because of some violence perpetrated by anti-terrorist actions the “extremists” are justified, and even if they don't agree with them, ultimately they put the blame for all sorts of barbarity they do on other people; and so, in the end, in their minds, its only our fault that the imperialist Christian West is paying.

Actually they do, this is just one example: "Two of the leading voices in the Muslim world denounced the persecution of Christians in Iraq, at the hands of extremists proclaiming a caliphate under the name Islamic State.
The most explicit condemnation came from Iyad Ameen Madani, the Secretary General for the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the group representing 57 countries, and 1.4 billion Muslims.
In a statement, he officially denounced the "forced deportation under the threat of execution” of Christians, calling it a "crime that cannot be tolerated.” The Secretary General also distanced Islam from the actions of the militant group known as ISIS, saying they "have nothing to do with Islam and its principles that call for justice, kindness, fairness, freedom of faith and coexistence.”
Meanwhile, Turkey's top cleric, the spiritual successor to the caliphate under the Ottoman Empire, also touched on the topic during a peace conference of Islamic scholars.
In a not-so-veiled swipe at ISIS, Mehmet Gormez declared that "an entity that lacks legal justification has no authority to declare war against a political gathering, any country or community.” He went on to say that Muslims should not be hostile towards "people with different views, values and beliefs, and regard them as enemies.”
http://www.romereports.com/pg157779-worl...istians-en

C.
We seem to forget that Christians act differently when in the minority vs. when we're in the majority. It's called Human Nature. As cliché as it is: power does corrupt us.

The most Christian centuries are known because of the canonized saints which were produced. Are great cathedrals signs of piety? Crusades? Perhaps in a shallow way, but they were also signs of power. Not all bishops acted like Christians back then... and maybe not all Muslims act like Muslims when in power.

I haven't read the Koran, so I don't know what it says about killing infidels. The Islamists aren't monsters, regardless of what they do - just human sinners. I wouldn't want to dispel all Muslims from the West, sentencing them to a bloody death in the "badlands" of the Middle East. That seems somewhat harsh...

Of course, the massive influx of Muslims into France has helped Catholics become lukewarm about their own faith. What's needed is saints, though, not politics. This poor young fellow is deluded and crazy. Let's pray for him.

Quote:* These are wafers that Catholics eat during the Mass ceremony; they signify the body of Christ.

lol.
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