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I don't know how I feel about this. I'm relieved, on one hand, that he has plead guilty and spared everyone involved a trial. But I knew Father Ron growing up, and it's disturbing to me that he would be capable of such a thing. It also troubles me greatly that this happened under the tenure of Archbishop Hacault, whom was dearly loved by many.

Quote:Ronald Léger, former priest, pleads guilty to sex assault
Léger had previously indicated he would not plead guilty to the offences

CBC News Posted: Jul 13, 2015 11:41 AM CT| Last Updated: Jul 13, 2015 3:14 PM CT

A 77-year-old former priest surprised a Winnipeg court Monday by pleading guilty to three sex assault charges and one charge of sexual interference.

Rev. Ronald Léger had previously indicated he would not plead guilty to the offences, which occurred between 1984 and 2004.

The sexual interference charge is because one of the victims was under 16 years of age.

Léger, who used to lead Holy Family Parish and founded Teen Stop Jeunesse, will be sentenced early next week and his name added to the national sex offender registry.

He remains free on bail.

Léger was arrested earlier this year after three males between the ages of nine and 18 came forward. Two were attacked in the 1980s, while the third occurred between 2002 and 2004.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/r...-1.3149681

Quote:Archdiocese apologizes after former priest pleads guilty to sex assault
Ronald Léger pleaded guilty to three sex assault charges and one charge of sexual interference

CBC News Posted: Jul 14, 2015 9:41 AM CT| Last Updated: Jul 14, 2015 9:41 AM CT

The Archdiocese of St. Boniface issued an apology Tuesday after a former priest that served at the Holy Family Parish on Winnipeg's Archibald Street pleaded guilty to sexual assault in court Monday.

Rev. Ronald Léger, 77, pleaded guilty to three sex assault charges and one charge of sexual interference when he appeared in court. The offences occurred between 1984 and 2004.

The sexual interference charge is because one of the victims was under 16 years of age.

Ronald Léger, former priest, pleads guilty to sex assault

"The Archdiocese of St. Boniface continues to express its deep sorrow to the victims who have come forward, as well as to their families and the entire parish community of Holy Family who have been affected by the acts of their former pastor," the organization's statement read.

The statement also praised the courage of the victims who had come forward, as well as those you had yet to reveal their experiences.

The archdiocese said the organization has been working closely with police since February 2014.

Winnipeg Catholics react to priest's sex assault, interference charges

Archdiocese addresses charges against former Winnipeg priest Ron Léger​

"Each time the heinous crime of sex abuse is reported, victims and their families are wounded again; the vast majority of faithful priests bow their heads in shame, and sincere Catholics, Christians and people of good will, experience shock, sorrow, anger and righteous indignation," the statement said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/a...-1.3151107

I have to say, all in all, the situation was handled well since 2014 when the accusations became public. I just regret it happened at all. It also makes me fearful that if Father Ron can do something like this... well, maybe I need to be more cautious with my sons.
It's tragic when stuff like this happens for several reasons:

1. Children are harmed, physically and spiritually
2. The priesthood is given a bad name
3. It hurts peoples faith in the Church

Sexual attraction is a very powerful force that is not easily wrestled with and overcome. I imagine it's especially hard for a priest. Prayers for all the victims, for all priests and for all who might reject the Faith because of the sins of a few who can't control themselves.
I think its a good idea to be more cautious with your sons and daughters not only with priests, but also teachers and even other family members. This is sad thing, there's no way around it.

On an “unrelated” note, Fr. Z comments a story of a seminary in Ireland that out of ten (!) seminarians the rector sent six home to reevaluate their vocation, because apparently they were a tiny bit conservative.
So, when you actively seek the gays, the liberals (who don't even think sex or gay sex is much of a sin), the doubters. Well, in the end you'll end up with an undignified priesthood.

From a couple of weeks ago:
CBC article, 13 July 2015 Wrote:Léger was arrested earlier this year after three males between the ages of nine and 18 came forward. Two were attacked in the 1980s, while the third occurred between 2002 and 2004.

Does anyone other than me see a problem here?
(08-03-2015, 02:49 AM)jovan66102 Wrote: [ -> ]From a couple of weeks ago:
CBC article, 13 July 2015 Wrote:Léger was arrested earlier this year after three males between the ages of nine and 18 came forward. Two were attacked in the 1980s, while the third occurred between 2002 and 2004.

Does anyone other than me see a problem here?

I guess I'm the only one that noticed that none of the accusers (at least according to the article) were even alive when the first attacks were alleged to have occurred, a minimum of 26 years ago, and if the youngest accuser was nine, which is implied, he wasn't alive when any of the attacks occurred!!! ???
(08-06-2015, 12:07 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-03-2015, 02:49 AM)jovan66102 Wrote: [ -> ]From a couple of weeks ago:
CBC article, 13 July 2015 Wrote:Léger was arrested earlier this year after three males between the ages of nine and 18 came forward. Two were attacked in the 1980s, while the third occurred between 2002 and 2004.

Does anyone other than me see a problem here?

I guess I'm the only one that noticed that none of the accusers (at least according to the article) were even alive when the first attacks were alleged to have occurred, a minimum of 26 years ago, and if the youngest accuser was nine, which is implied, he wasn't alive when any of the attacks occurred!!! ???

CBC, where the article was sourced, is terrible at editing. They often don't express things very well, this is a good example of it. LOL... I'm so used to it, I don't even bother correcting it usually anymore.

From other news sources, I know that the incidents occurred when the boys were between the ages of 9 and 18, with two attacks occurring in the 80's and the other from 2002-2004.
For those untrained to see the signs, it can be a real shock. One of my favorite professors was a Jesuit priest who ended up owning over $1500 in child pornography. I knew from listening to his homilies and talking to him that he was clearly unhappy as a priest, but to most students he seemed like just a funny, smart professor who was comfortable making worldly jokes.

And not to make you paranoid, but as you most likely already know, most sexual abuse occurs from family members or neighbors, people that you are close to. It is important to learn how to identify abnormal social behavior and not try to brush it aside as, "Well, he's just idiosyncratic like that."
(08-08-2015, 12:16 AM)richgr Wrote: [ -> ]For those untrained to see the signs, it can be a real shock. One of my favorite professors was a Jesuit priest who ended up owning over $1500 in child pornography. I knew from listening to his homilies and talking to him that he was clearly unhappy as a priest, but to most students he seemed like just a funny, smart professor who was comfortable making worldly jokes.

And not to make you paranoid, but as you most likely already know, most sexual abuse occurs from family members or neighbors, people that you are close to. It is important to learn how to identify abnormal social behavior and not try to brush it aside as, [u]"Well, he's just idiosyncratic like that."[/u]

What exactly do you mean by 'abnormal social behavior' and the under 'idiosyncratic' as in the underlined above?
(08-07-2015, 11:52 PM)PrairieMom Wrote: [ -> ]CBC, where the article was sourced, is terrible at editing. They often don't express things very well, this is a good example of it. LOL... I'm so used to it, I don't even bother correcting it usually anymore.

From other news sources, I know that the incidents occurred when the boys were between the ages of 9 and 18, with two attacks occurring in the 80's and the other from 2002-2004.

Oh, I guessed it was typical sloppy reporting by the Communist Broadcasting Corporation! I lived in Canada for a long time and listened to them and read their website regularly.

I actually made my original post more as a test to see if people were paying attention. :LOL:
(08-08-2015, 03:26 AM)xandratax Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-08-2015, 12:16 AM)richgr Wrote: [ -> ]For those untrained to see the signs, it can be a real shock. One of my favorite professors was a Jesuit priest who ended up owning over $1500 in child pornography. I knew from listening to his homilies and talking to him that he was clearly unhappy as a priest, but to most students he seemed like just a funny, smart professor who was comfortable making worldly jokes.

And not to make you paranoid, but as you most likely already know, most sexual abuse occurs from family members or neighbors, people that you are close to. It is important to learn how to identify abnormal social behavior and not try to brush it aside as, [u]"Well, he's just idiosyncratic like that."[/u]

What exactly do you mean by 'abnormal social behavior' and the under 'idiosyncratic' as in the underlined above?
There are differences between people who possess varying levels of social ineptness and people who possess pathological tendencies. Sometimes they're very subtle and can be discerned in how people respond to various social situations. Usually subtle and seemingly random expressions of hostility (and sometimes very overt expressions) are signs of an unhealthy mind rather than simply a socially inept one.

Another area that this is related to is boundaries between two people and how those boundaries are expressed. Anyone in a position of power over another, for example priest, boss, teacher, adult to child, etc., must maintain strict boundaries and invitations to breach these boundaries are clear red flags. Sometimes one can tell that the breach is simply due to incompetence, but it requires close observation to see if other factors are involved as well.

As I said with the priest I knew, to most people, he was just a jolly priest, but if you paid attention to his jokes (e.g. references to alcoholism), his side points in his homily about the joys of fatherhood and having children, how he treated some students with a certain hostility, you could tell something was up.
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