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Italian Catholic priest offers ‘baby bonus’ — with strings attached
By Rosie Scammell
Religion News Service August 12, 2015


ROME — A Tuscany priest is offering a baby bonus of more than $2,000 to Italian Catholic families who have three or more children. But there are strings attached.

The gift to parishioners in Staggia, a village close to Siena, was announced online as an “extraordinary contribution” by the Rev. Stefano Bimbi, the local Catholic priest.

The $2,210 (2,000 euros) will be handed over only when the children are baptized. Additionally, the offer applies strictly to Italian couples who were married in the Church, are residents of the village, and have three or more children.

Vox Wrote:
Oh, my! He's so -- not inclusive!

Nonetheless, Bimbi said the decision had the potential to help Catholic couples. “Our parish wants to give concrete help in this moment of crisis for families, that with courage accept the gift of a child!” he wrote in the announcement.

The parish coffers are not all “roses and flowers,” the priest said, so its economic affairs council had allocated an unspecified limited sum for the baby project. Bimbi was not immediately available when contacted by Religion News Service to discuss whether anyone had yet taken him up on the offer.

The financial incentive follows a similar initiative by the Italian government, which promised low-income families $88 (80 euros) a month for each child under 3 years old.

It also comes against the backdrop of a national campaign in Italy opposing alternative family models. Organizers of a Rome protest in June said 1 million people attended a rally against teaching children about gay relationships in schools and giving rights to same-sex couples.

Vox Wrote:Go Italy!

On second thought, I do think young people need to be taught about homosexuality, that it exists, that it's a disorder the same way that manic-depression is a disorder, that homosexuals don't choose to be homosexuals, that they should be treated the same as anyone else, etc. -- but that they shouldn't be taught this as "kids" unless a situation were to arise in which it'd be necessary to talk about it. I believe in innocence, not ignorance! Knowing *about* something doesn't harm innocence, and there are ways to talk about pretty much everything without filling a child's head with "visuals" that might corrupt his innocence. (the conflation of ignorance with innocence in some quarters of the trad world scares the heck outta me.. I think parents who do that will have it all blow up in their faces someday...)

The Italian government said it intends to legalize gay partnerships, although same-sex marriage or adoption is not yet up for debate.

Vox Wrote:One'd think that simple contracts that'd allow anyone -- gay or straight -- to have hospital visitation rights, etc., and writing wills to deal with inheritance issues would obviate the felt need for legally recognized "gay partnerships." There are plenty of straight people out there with the same sorts of issues who should be allowed such things. For ex., imagine a couple of (straight) old spinster ladies who live together and have no families of their own. They should be able to arrange things so that if one were to be hospitalized, the other could be considered "family" with regard to visits, etc. And one could easily write a will so that the other, instead of the State, inherits her possessions. The biggies are insurance and social security... What, if anything, to do about them?

(08-23-2015, 10:54 PM)Vox Clamantis Wrote: [ -> ]
Vox Wrote:One'd think that simple contracts that'd allow anyone -- gay or straight -- to have hospital visitation rights, etc., and writing wills to deal with inheritance issues would obviate the felt need for legally recognized "gay partnerships." There are plenty of straight people out there with the same sorts of issues who should be allowed such things. For ex., imagine a couple of (straight) old spinster ladies who live together and have no families of their own. They should be able to arrange things so that if one were to be hospitalized, the other could be considered "family" with regard to visits, etc. And one could easily write a will so that the other, instead of the State, inherits her possessions. The biggies are insurance and social security... What, if anything, to do about them?

That's because it's not about having those rights. It's about destroying marriage, the family, and, ultimately, Christianity (we know that last one won't happen, and even if the devil knows he ultimately loses, he can still drag a lot of souls to hell in the process).
How pathetic the Church has become since Vatican 2 with these and other stunts.
(08-24-2015, 02:49 PM)Paul Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-23-2015, 10:54 PM)Vox Clamantis Wrote: [ -> ]
Vox Wrote:One'd think that simple contracts that'd allow anyone -- gay or straight -- to have hospital visitation rights, etc., and writing wills to deal with inheritance issues would obviate the felt need for legally recognized "gay partnerships." There are plenty of straight people out there with the same sorts of issues who should be allowed such things. For ex., imagine a couple of (straight) old spinster ladies who live together and have no families of their own. They should be able to arrange things so that if one were to be hospitalized, the other could be considered "family" with regard to visits, etc. And one could easily write a will so that the other, instead of the State, inherits her possessions. The biggies are insurance and social security... What, if anything, to do about them?

That's because it's not about having those rights. It's about destroying marriage, the family, and, ultimately, Christianity (we know that last one won't happen, and even if the devil knows he ultimately loses, he can still drag a lot of souls to hell in the process).

True. As i've pointed out over and over, the lavender agenda is the destruction of Christian marriage. The grant of 'civil partnerships' doesn't satisfy them. Vide the situation in Britain. The Civil Partnership Act was passed in 2004, taking effect in 2005. It granted homosexual couples all the rights and privileges of marriage. Did it satisfy them? HELL NO! THey kept up the attack, and in 2013 the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act 2013 was passed taking effect in 2014.

The Act exempted religious bodies from being required to perform the abominations, but the Act was only a few months old before the first law suit was announced to try to force the CofE to perform them, on the grounds that it was the State Church. If they win that, we'll be next. They don't care about the prottie sects, they're after us!
Italy is having a big time population crisis. Much of Europe is, but I've been hearing about people in Italy not having many kids for a long time now. It's funny because in the past huge families were very common for Italians.