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Well, thank you, very, very much Vox.

I'm slightly delayed in my response and slower at FE because of many pressing things in my life - some hard, some good.

On the good side, the book is doing very well. Far better than I ever imagined. Some here might be interested to know that I got a recommendation from RORATE CAELI!

Link to Rorate recommendation here …

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/01...roger.html

Rorate and other things helped push me to the the No 1 Best Seller in Catholic books at Amazon UK.

Then I got bumped off Number One by Pope Francis's new book! Pipped to the post by the Pope! 

"Pipped to the post" may be a British/Irish expression … not sure. Anyway despite Pope Francis grabbing Number One, the book is selling just as well. Deo Gratias!

(Note the book is not doing quite so startling well at the American Amazon - but still very well. Not complaining! And thanks to Vox and everyone here who helped!)

(01-11-2016, 05:58 AM)Roger Buck Wrote: [ -> ]Well, thank you, very, very much Vox.

I'm slightly delayed in my response and slower at FE because of many pressing things in my life - some hard, some good.

On the good side, the book is doing very well. Far better than I ever imagined. Some here might be interested to know that I got a recommendation from RORATE CAELI!

Link to Rorate recommendation here …

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/01...roger.html

Rorate and other things helped push me to the the No 1 Best Seller in Catholic books at Amazon UK.

Then I got bumped off Number One by Pope Francis's new book! Pipped to the post by the Pope! 

"Pipped to the post" may be a British/Irish expression … not sure. Anyway despite Pope Francis grabbing Number One, the book is selling just as well. Deo Gratias!

(Note the book is not doing quite so startling well at the American Amazon - but still very well. Not complaining! And thanks to Vox and everyone here who helped!)

See, I told you so. Rorate would endorse the book.

(01-12-2016, 08:27 AM)Neopelagianus Wrote: [ -> ]See, I told you so. Rorate would endorse the book.

Belated smile 

Also I thought I'd update this thread with some new links. Earlier I gave this as links to online extracts from my book:

(12-01-2015, 06:03 AM)Roger Buck Wrote: [ -> ]Some of you might like to know that my site has a list of extracts from the book.:

Here are the key ones. Note that the book ranges a lot in both content and style. Some of it is straight narrative for example, but more of it is in dialogue format about issues in the Church and secular society.

Also some of it is satire, some of it is very serious etc..

First Chapter

Entire first chapter now here with more about the book.  http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2015/11/...apter-one/

At the Sign of the Gentle Traditionalist

Short extract from second chapter: http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2015/11/...tionalist/

Famished for Christendom

Short but KEY extract to what the whole book is about: http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2015/11/...ristendom/

This is my favourite short post on the book. Great pictures too!

The Gentle Traditionalist on the Superiority Complex of the 1960s

Speaks for itself: http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2015/09/...the-1960s/

The Gentle Traditionalist meets the Man with No Name

Slightly silly - satire on the New Age but with a deeper undercurrent:http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2015/11/...e-breathe/

Catholic Counter-Revolution and the Counter-Revolutionary Mind

Features a small extract contained within a longer post:http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2015/05/...nary-mind/

Secularism is the Air that We Breathe …

Same as above. Short extract incorporated into longer post. http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2015/11/...e-breathe/

And these extracts and a few other posts about the book can be found in this archive of posts here: http://corjesusacratissimum.org/tag/the-...itionalist

Warm thanks to you for all your support, most especially Vox!

But a few more online extracts have appeared. Here they are:

The Gentle Traditionalist on the Catholic Mystery: Supernatural Love
"Without the Eucharist, the Church simply does not exist" – Benedict XVI - as explained by THE GENTLE TRADITIONALIST in this extract … http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2015/12/...ural-love/


Urgency, Joy and Catholic Traditionalism

Blog on why Catholic Traditionalism needs both joy and a real sense of URGENCY – with an extract from the book … http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2015/12/...tionalism/.


The Gentle Traditionalist on the Only Hope for Humanity …

The Gentle Traditionalist speaks of the Only Hope for Humanity - the Catholic Church …

http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2016/02/...-humanity/



English Blood, Irish Heart: A Valentine for Catholic Ireland

This one is a bit different. The above are all fictional dialogues from the book. These are extracts from my non-fiction introduction to the book about Catholic Ireland. Link: http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2015/12/...c-ireland/

Now I have read your book, Roger. And I thank you for it. It is an interesting and heart-warming tale as I'm sure it was meant to be.

However, as you might expect from an almost 1/2 Irish survivor of generations of Masonic/Protestant persecution and the insanely egocentric "New Age" of the '60's, I was irked by your GT's "political correctness". I would have much liked to challenge him on some of his assumptions. Protestant, Anglo-Yank baggage is hard to toss since it is the assumed "middle ground" in the "what is Christian" disputes.

Anyhow, I didn't buy the book for me; I very much hope that it will be engaging and entertaining enough to make a post- New Age, practically illiterate, Materialist think about it.

Thanks again. I hope it will sow some seed that may grow into a fine tree that may realise that status, money and pleasure are too mean a goals for "the image and likeness" of God.

I personally loved the book. It was a pleasure to read and at no point did I ever feel bored. I excitedly await RB's future works.

The one thing that I felt could have been better was that GT seemed too apologetic regarding the critical points of the Church's past. The Crusades, inquisition, and such. While these things were not high points in Church history, they have tenable points that can counteract the mainstream arguments against them. I definitely recommend people to watch CMTV's specials on the crusades and inquisition to understand the point. Most first hand accounts of those things will agree that the Church did not act in such a negative way as mainstream history tends to report.

Now, I suggest that you find a way to have that book over here

I say, there are many Catholic bookstores that would probably love to have it on their shelves, and they are quite plenty.

Oldavid, Gangreen, Neopelagianus - thank you all.

I especially appreciate the honest feedback. This is the first time I've been told that GT - my Gentle Traditionalist character - is too "politically correct"! 

Of course, the whole point of the book is to challenge the insanity of political correctness - but with honey rather than vinegar,  mourning vs ranting.

Mourning … a part of the point of the book is to speak about TRAGEDY as something heartfelt. The book tries not to rant - in a toxic way - about "the Sprit of Vatican II" or secular tyranny or PC madness. But it does try to say these are all immensely tragic things, which hurt.

They hurt the Church, they hurt the world, they hurt real human beings, you and me, and the children being born into this tragedy.

GT also shows his horror at sexual abuse in the Church (while clearly saying it exists everywhere - link to that bit here: http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2015/10/...ic-church/.)

And he touches on Catholic atrocities in the past, mainly the St. Bartholomew's day massacre in France where thousands of Protestants were slaughtered overnight. But he never apologises for the Crusades as such!

Still, I appreciate the feedback that I may have occasionally used too much "honey". Worth thinking about.

As you clearly see, Oldavid, I am clearly hoping to reach beyond Trads

(03-06-2016, 10:18 AM)Oldavid Wrote: [ -> ]Anyhow, I didn't buy the book for me; I very much hope that it will be engaging and entertaining enough to make a post- New Age, practically illiterate, Materialist think about it.

Thanks again. I hope it will sow some seed that may grow into a fine tree that may realise that status, money and pleasure are too mean a goals for "the image and likeness" of God.

Yes … sowing seed …

This book won't reach hardline secularists. But I pray it might reach people on the EDGES …

For example, Catholics on the edge of traditionalism. Those who sense something has gone terribly wrong with Vatican II, but aren't yet able to admit it.

Or just maybe Protestants on the edge of the Church, wondering about crossing the Tiber …

Or just possibly a few New Agers, here and there. Very hard to reach this group.

I've said this before, but I really hope it can reach young people before they become completely set  - like stone - in secular propaganda.

And if any of you have children in their late teens or early 20s, or younger cousins, nephews, nieces, friends that you could lend a copy to or point them toward it, I'd be grateful ...

(03-08-2016, 04:33 AM)Roger Buck Wrote: [ -> ]Still, I appreciate the feedback that I may have occasionally used too much "honey". Worth thinking about.

I don't think you used "too much honey"! I thought the tone of your book was spot on!

I do think, though, that you, like most people -- even great Catholics! -- aren't "hip" to the Truths about the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades - esepcially the former (I think I sent you an email about that actually, just after I got done reading your stupendous book).

To get caught up with re. to the Inquisition, please watch this video:


Talking points about the Spanish Inquisition: it had nothing whatsoever to do with self-professed Jews, it only had authority over self-professed Catholics, during its 350 years it had an execution rate that is akin to that of modern day Texas (there simply weren't "thousands and thousands" or "millions and millions" of people executed), the Inquisition Courts were very much superior to the secular Courts of the day (to the point that prisoners in the secular Court system would sometimes blaspheme so they'd be tried by the Inquisition instead), Spain had to do something to route out conversos who were cooperating with Muslims to overtake Spain (and who rose up through the ranks of the Catholic hierarchy and were preaching the Talmud from Catholic pulpits), etc.

As to the Crusades, this is the video to watch:


Talking points about the Crusades: they were defensive wars through and through, but also that some seriously bad things went down during them. Christians are human beings, and war is Hell. Constantinople got sacked by Christians, some Jews were slaughtered, etc. -- but none of those atrocities were in accordance with Church teaching, commanded by the Pope, approved by the Pope, or ignored by the Pope. Quite the opposite!

But that one "little" (but important) historical bit aside, your book is a tremendous tool we can use to get secularists to at least question those beliefs of theirs that they take for granted as being unassailable. I'm SO glad you wrote it and hope that every Fishie buys at least one copy to hand out to the secular-minded people they love.

(03-08-2016, 04:33 AM)Roger Buck Wrote: [ -> ]Oldavid, Gangreen, Neopelagianus - thank you all.

I especially appreciate the honest feedback. This is the first time I've been told that GT - my Gentle Traditionalist character - is too "politically correct"! 

Of course, the whole point of the book is to challenge the insanity of political correctness - but with honey rather than vinegar,  mourning vs ranting.

Hey! Roger!

I was not suggesting that we should pour acid on the heads of  all the ignorant. For cryin' out loud, cobber, we're all ignorant to a greater or lesser extent. No mere human can comprehend the fullness of the Divine Intention when He did the Creation thing.

Well, I'm belatedly reviving this thread to say a few things ...

First, due to a number of pressing things, I've not found it easy to be very active at this forum recently. Or indeed online generally, whether at my blog, Facebook or a lot of personal correspondence, including to some good people here. (Please forgive me, if you are one of them!)

Generally, I'm also finding certain lifelong introverted tendencies getting stronger as I get older. I need time offline to be able to  pray and ponder things.

And yet at the same time, my belief in Fisheaters *only gets stronger*. Obviously, my only hope for the Church (and that means the world) rests on  restoring tradition. And more than ever, I believe in the role of Fisheaters in creating online community to facilitate that restoration.

"The role of Fisheaters in creating online community to facilitate that restoration" ... a deep, important subject I'd like to reflect on more. (Indeed, I may revive an old thread I started about that once.) For me there is something both very mysterious and inspiring what Vox did here, pouring herself out to build up this site and forum with nowhere near enough credit, I think.

So there is a tension in me between my growing introversion and genuinely wanting to support this work as much as possible ...

Also, despite my relative silence, I remain very, very grateful to all the kindness and help I've received from great people here with my book.

Second, some of you were interested in the Kindle edition. Well, it is now here - you can find it at this this link:

myBook.to/TheGentleTraditionalist


Finally, I will also say that I have received genuine interest in a movie version of The Gentle Traditionalist.

Apart from two or three friends, I've told this to no-one yet. So this is the first public announcement.

Alas, I'm not sure how much more I can/should say at this point, except that an option has been signed with a legitimate filmmaking company. Such option though is no guarantee that it will happen. Still it does indicate that they are serious ...

Again, my warm thanks to _everyone_ of you who has helped me with this book.