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Archbishop Terrence Prendergast of Ottawa has told his priests that they should not administer the Sacrament of Anointing to people who plan an assisted suicide, since their desire to end their own lives shows that they lack "the proper disposition for the anointing of the sick."

The archbishop said that if a priest is called to attend to someone planning suicide, he should pray with him and seek to dissuade him from the act. In those circumstances, he said, by refusing to anoint the individual the priest may be helping to drive home the gravity of the action. He added that the sacrament includes absolution, but this cannot be given pre-emptively, to forgive a sin that is still being planned.

Archbishop Prenderast observed: "Asking your priest to be present to something that is is direct contradiction to our Catholic values is not fair to the pastor."

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/head...ryid=27565
Good for His Excellency!
(02-23-2016, 02:29 AM)Poche Wrote: [ -> ]In those circumstances, he said, by refusing to anoint the individual the priest may be helping to drive home the gravity of the action.

Waaaaaait... you mean refusing a sacrament is actually merciful?  Huh? Shocked
(02-23-2016, 10:06 AM)Paul Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2016, 02:29 AM)Poche Wrote: [ -> ]In those circumstances, he said, by refusing to anoint the individual the priest may be helping to drive home the gravity of the action.

Waaaaaait... you mean refusing a sacrament is actually merciful?  Huh? Shocked

You wouldn't give communion to someone who wants to stomp the host on the ground. 
You wouldn't marry someone who plans to commit adultery.
You wouldn't anoint someone who plans to kill himself.

Why turn a sin into an even greater sin? The sacraments require the proper disposition to function properly anyway.
(02-23-2016, 04:08 PM)Dominicus Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2016, 10:06 AM)Paul Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2016, 02:29 AM)Poche Wrote: [ -> ]In those circumstances, he said, by refusing to anoint the individual the priest may be helping to drive home the gravity of the action.

Waaaaaait... you mean refusing a sacrament is actually merciful?  Huh? Shocked

You wouldn't give communion to someone who wants to stomp the host on the ground. 
You wouldn't marry someone who plans to commit adultery.
You wouldn't anoint someone who plans to kill himself.

Why turn a sin into an even greater sin? The sacraments require the proper disposition to function properly anyway.

But... but... that's so divisive and medieval. Especially in the Year of Mercy. Besides, nobody believes in sin anymore, so refusing Communion is just mean. It would only make sense if you actually believed that bread and wine become God, and that whole "eating and drinking unworthily" thing. Which we all know Vatican II got rid of. Because springtime.
(02-23-2016, 06:47 PM)Paul Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2016, 04:08 PM)Dominicus Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2016, 10:06 AM)Paul Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2016, 02:29 AM)Poche Wrote: [ -> ]In those circumstances, he said, by refusing to anoint the individual the priest may be helping to drive home the gravity of the action.

Waaaaaait... you mean refusing a sacrament is actually merciful?  Huh? Shocked

You wouldn't give communion to someone who wants to stomp the host on the ground. 
You wouldn't marry someone who plans to commit adultery.
You wouldn't anoint someone who plans to kill himself.

Why turn a sin into an even greater sin? The sacraments require the proper disposition to function properly anyway.

But... but... that's so divisive and medieval. Especially in the Year of Mercy. Besides, nobody believes in sin anymore, so refusing Communion is just mean. It would only make sense if you actually believed that bread and wine become God, and that whole "eating and drinking unworthily" thing. Which we all know Vatican II got rid of. Because springtime.

Actually Vatican II did no such thing. 
(02-24-2016, 12:57 AM)Poche Wrote: [ -> ]Actually Vatican II did no such thing.

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You wouldn't marry someone who plans to commit adultery.

Actually now, the intention to commit adultery would invalidate the marriage.
(02-23-2016, 10:06 AM)Paul Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2016, 02:29 AM)Poche Wrote: [ -> ]In those circumstances, he said, by refusing to anoint the individual the priest may be helping to drive home the gravity of the action.

Waaaaaait... you mean refusing a sacrament is actually merciful?  Huh? Shocked

Yes, with holding the sacrament is merciful. It saves the recipient from going to a lower place in Hell.
(02-25-2016, 12:31 AM)Poche Wrote: [ -> ]You wouldn't marry someone who plans to commit adultery.

Actually now, the intention to commit adultery would invalidate the marriage.

My point isn't whether or not the sacrament actually takes place, it'd be in the same line as absolving someone who is unrepentant.
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