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So fascinating. I had never thought about this before!

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By now, you’ve might have heard all about this. As I write this,* the Harvard Extension Cultural Studies Club is hosting a Black Mass (a Satanic mockery of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass) performed by the Satanic Temple. They announced that they would be desecrating a consecrated Host during this “service.”

Now the group responsible for the Black Mass, the Satanic Temple, is claiming that they don’t have a Host, because “we respect all religions and don’t want anyone to feel offended. We understand the powerful role that the Eucharist plays in the Christian religion and in no way want to appear as though we don’t respect your traditions.”

My first reaction was that this was a perfect image of 21st century academia: they want to perform a Satanic Black Mass without offending anyone. But upon further reflection, it occurs to me that this is a powerful case for Catholicism. Think about it this way:

1. The Eucharist is either Jesus or Evil.


As I pointed out last month, the Eucharist is either Jesus or mere bread and wine. If the Eucharist is Jesus, everyone should be at Mass, worshipping Our Lord. If the Eucharist is Jesus, there should be no such thing as Protestantism, Mormonism, Islam, atheism, etc. But if the Eucharist isn’t Jesus, then for two thousand years, the would-be followers of Jesus Christ were actually idolaters. If that’s the case, nobody should be Catholic.

So those are the stakes. Everyone who encountered Jesus of Nazareth was faced with a crucial question: is this God, in some mysterious guise, or not? The early Christians called this “the aut Deus aut malus homo” (“either God or a bad man”). Everyone encountering the Eucharist is faced with the same question: either God or idolatry.

And of course, if the Eucharist is pagan idolatry, it’s demonic. As 1 Corinthians 10:20 says, “what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God.” The whole world hangs on this point: is the Eucharist Jesus or an idol? Is the Sacrifice of the Mass being offered to God, or to demons?


2. Satan Hates the Eucharist

The satanic Black Mass is a ritual inversion (and mockery) of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass performed by Satanists. Now, there are two types of Satanists: “LaVey Satanists,” and “theological Satanists.” The Satanic Temple folks behind tonight’s Black Mass are LaVey Satanists. In other words, they’re atheists who don’t believe in Satan, and use “Satanism” as a tool to harass and provoke Christians (unlike“theological Satanists,” who believe in Satan and worship him). This whole thing, like the satanic monument in Oklahoma, is a deliberate provocation and an attention-seeking measure. But whether the practitioners are playing at the occult, or serious, there’s no question that they’re tapping into some seriously dark spiritual forces. Satan is at work here.

And it worth pointing out that when Satanists (of both kind) want to mock a religious ritual, you can bet that it’s going to by the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass that they target. How often do you hear about Muslim or Hindu or Jewish (or even Protestant) services being subjected to such intense Satanic mockery?

Nor is this Satanic targeting of the Mass anything new. As far back as the fourth century, St. Epiphanius of Salamis described a sect of Gnosticism performing a perverted mockery of Mass. I won’t go into the details, but it was graphic enough that the members of this sect became known as “Borborians” (“filthy ones”).


3. Satan Doesn’t Drive Out Satan


So the Eucharist is either Jesus or evil (since if it’s not Jesus, it’s idolatry) and since the devil hates the Eucharist, we can cross “evil” off the list. For some additional Biblical support, consider Matthew 12:22-28:

Quote:Then a blind and dumb demoniac was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the dumb man spoke and saw. And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?” But when the Pharisees heard it they said, “It is only by Be-el′zebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.” Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand; and if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then will his kingdom stand? And if I cast out demons by Be-el′zebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
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This passage is important: it shows, for example, that Catholic exorcists are operating by the Spirit of God when they drive out demons. But it also means that if Satan hates the Mass, we can be sure that the Mass isn’t evil.

Of course, if the Mass isn’t demonic, if it isn’t idolatry, that really only leaves one option: that the Eucharist is Jesus Christ, and that the Sacrifice of the Mass is presenting Jesus to the Father. This (and as far as I can tell, this alone), accounts for the Satanic mockery.

Even if the only thing you knew about Catholicism was that its central form of worship, the Mass, was the target of Satanic ire, you would already have good reason to believe that Catholicism was the true religion. But taken with all of the other evidence for the truth that the Eucharist is Jesus, that the Mass is a Sacrifice instituted by God, and that the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ, Satan is just one more (unwitting) witness for the truth of Jesus Christ and His Church.
It really should give every Protestant who is intellectually honest some deafening pause.

Why is it that the Catholic Church is the target of Satanists for ridicule and mockery and the object of its hate?

Why do Satanists dress up as "high priests" and "bishops" as an ape of the Catholic Church and steal consecrated Hosts?

The reason is obvious:  The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ and always will be His, so that is where Satanists concentrate their efforts.

But frighteningly the Protestant comes to the logical conclusion that he, along with the Satanists, do not worship the Eucharist, and even deride it.

So they mostly ignore that uncomfortable thought and drive it away, unless of course they respond to grace and begin the path of conversion. 


                                                                            Some years before I returned to the Catholic Church, my Aunt and another woman on separate occasions told me stories about praying outside abortion clinics that were remarkably similar. They mentioned protests where a number of pro-abortion supporters were nearby and the first pro-life people on the scene were mostly Evangelical Protestants. At first, the situation was very civil with the pro-abortion folks yelling things like "Where in the Bible did Jesus ever mention abortion" or a young girl telling an elderly man "I don't want to make laws that tell you what you can and can't do with your male parts, so why can't you do the same for me" or "How much does your church pay you to protest". But then suddenly a priest would arrive, they'd see the Roman collar, and it was like demonic possession coming over the pro-abortion bunch. F-F-F-F-F Die You Scum F-F-F-F etc. A few minutes earlier they gave no indication that they wanted to kill the Baptist minister wearing a suit and tie, but it appeared they wanted to kill the Catholic priest wearing a Roman collar.
(08-08-2016, 12:17 PM)BC Wrote: [ -> ]It really should give every Protestant who is intellectually honest some deafening pause.

Why is it that the Catholic Church is the target of Satanists for ridicule and mockery and the object of its hate?

Why do Satanists dress up as "high priests" and "bishops" as an ape of the Catholic Church and steal consecrated Hosts?

The reason is obvious:  The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ and always will be His, so that is where Satanists concentrate their efforts.

But frighteningly the Protestant comes to the logical conclusion that he, along with the Satanists, do not worship the Eucharist, and even deride it.

So they mostly ignore that uncomfortable thought and drive it away, unless of course they respond to grace and begin the path of conversion.

You know, I've noticed how also the Satanists don't seem to attack the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox services -- their Divine Liturgy -- nor it seems do they mock the Divine Liturgy or try to desecrate the Orthodox Communion Bread and Wine or their icons. And that even though they have valid Masses.

It is ALWAYS us Catholics they aim for when one boils it down to basics, at least for us in North America.

May God defends us all.
(08-08-2016, 02:19 PM)HailGilbert Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-08-2016, 12:17 PM)BC Wrote: [ -> ]It really should give every Protestant who is intellectually honest some deafening pause.

Why is it that the Catholic Church is the target of Satanists for ridicule and mockery and the object of its hate?

Why do Satanists dress up as "high priests" and "bishops" as an ape of the Catholic Church and steal consecrated Hosts?

The reason is obvious:  The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ and always will be His, so that is where Satanists concentrate their efforts.

But frighteningly the Protestant comes to the logical conclusion that he, along with the Satanists, do not worship the Eucharist, and even deride it.

So they mostly ignore that uncomfortable thought and drive it away, unless of course they respond to grace and begin the path of conversion.

You know, I've noticed how also the Satanists don't seem to attack the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox services -- their Divine Liturgy -- nor it seems do they mock the Divine Liturgy or try to desecrate the Orthodox Communion Bread and Wine or their icons. And that even though they have valid Masses.

It is ALWAYS us Catholics they aim for when one boils it down to basics, at least for us in North America.

May God defends us all.

I wonder what their behavior is in countries where those churches are more prominent.
(08-08-2016, 01:48 PM)Eric F Wrote: [ -> ]                                                                            Some years before I returned to the Catholic Church, my Aunt and another woman on separate occasions told me stories about praying outside abortion clinics that were remarkably similar. They mentioned protests where a number of pro-abortion supporters were nearby and the first pro-life people on the scene were mostly Evangelical Protestants. At first, the situation was very civil with the pro-abortion folks yelling things like "Where in the Bible did Jesus ever mention abortion" or a young girl telling an elderly man "I don't want to make laws that tell you what you can and can't do with your male parts, so why can't you do the same for me" or "How much does your church pay you to protest". But then suddenly a priest would arrive, they'd see the Roman collar, and it was like demonic possession coming over the pro-abortion bunch. F-F-F-F-F Die You Scum F-F-F-F etc. A few minutes earlier they gave no indication that they wanted to kill the Baptist minister wearing a suit and tie, but it appeared they wanted to kill the Catholic priest wearing a Roman collar.

Yeah that's not surprising.  Those who are spiritually aware (good or evil) know the score.  They aren't threatened by a Protestant minister nor are they going to waste their time
doing a "Black" Protestant Service. 
(08-08-2016, 02:45 PM)BC Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-08-2016, 01:48 PM)Eric F Wrote: [ -> ]                                                                            Some years before I returned to the Catholic Church, my Aunt and another woman on separate occasions told me stories about praying outside abortion clinics that were remarkably similar. They mentioned protests where a number of pro-abortion supporters were nearby and the first pro-life people on the scene were mostly Evangelical Protestants. At first, the situation was very civil with the pro-abortion folks yelling things like "Where in the Bible did Jesus ever mention abortion" or a young girl telling an elderly man "I don't want to make laws that tell you what you can and can't do with your male parts, so why can't you do the same for me" or "How much does your church pay you to protest". But then suddenly a priest would arrive, they'd see the Roman collar, and it was like demonic possession coming over the pro-abortion bunch. F-F-F-F-F Die You Scum F-F-F-F etc. A few minutes earlier they gave no indication that they wanted to kill the Baptist minister wearing a suit and tie, but it appeared they wanted to kill the Catholic priest wearing a Roman collar.

Yeah that's not surprising.  Those who are spiritually aware (good or evil) know the score.  They aren't threatened by a Protestant minister nor are they going to waste their time
doing a "Black" Protestant Service.

Okay, now you two got me thinking.

What would a "black" Protestant service even look like? Huh?
(08-08-2016, 02:30 PM)GangGreen Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-08-2016, 02:19 PM)HailGilbert Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-08-2016, 12:17 PM)BC Wrote: [ -> ]It really should give every Protestant who is intellectually honest some deafening pause.

Why is it that the Catholic Church is the target of Satanists for ridicule and mockery and the object of its hate?

Why do Satanists dress up as "high priests" and "bishops" as an ape of the Catholic Church and steal consecrated Hosts?

The reason is obvious:  The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ and always will be His, so that is where Satanists concentrate their efforts.

But frighteningly the Protestant comes to the logical conclusion that he, along with the Satanists, do not worship the Eucharist, and even deride it.

So they mostly ignore that uncomfortable thought and drive it away, unless of course they respond to grace and begin the path of conversion.

You know, I've noticed how also the Satanists don't seem to attack the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox services -- their Divine Liturgy -- nor it seems do they mock the Divine Liturgy or try to desecrate the Orthodox Communion Bread and Wine or their icons. And that even though they have valid Masses.

It is ALWAYS us Catholics they aim for when one boils it down to basics, at least for us in North America.

May God defends us all.

I wonder what their behavior is in countries where those churches are more prominent.

This is an interesting point. Perhaps the Eastern Orthodox are just flying under the radar here in America, but I doubt that is it. ...

Perhaps it is different in the Slavic countries and I know they suffered from Communists, but they do not receive any of the antagonism here in the U.S.  from Protestants, Satanists, the Media and Government like the Catholic Church does. Maybe any E.O.'s on this board can let us know.

The fact though that Satanists target the Catholic Church above all other separated ecclesiastical organizations is just another confirmation for us.

Not referring specifically to Satanists here, but this Fulton Sheen  quote is relevant,

"If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hated. My reason for doing this would be, that if Christ is in any one of the churches of the world today, He must still be hated as He was when He was on earth in the flesh. If you would find Christ today, then find the Church that does not get along with the world. Look for the Church that is hated by the world as Christ was hated by the world. .........." (Taken from Radio Replies, Vol. 1, p IX, Rumble & Carty, Tan Publishing)

(08-08-2016, 02:48 PM)PrairieMom Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, now you two got me thinking.

What would a "black" Protestant service even look like? Huh?

Well they vary, but I suppose it would just involve sitting around listening to Scripture from the Satanic Bible, a sermon on "doing what thou wilt" and
some Satanic hymns.  Not nearly as spiritually exciting as attempting to mock a re-presentation of Christ's sacrifice on Calvary and inflicting pain on His Sacramental Flesh, however.

Of course though, in a way, the modern "Praise and Worship" that the "non-denominational" Protestants started rocking out in the 60's and 70's ( now fully electric, nightclub strobelight, and hard rockish) resembles something Anton LaVey would be pretty enthusiastic about.

(08-08-2016, 03:36 PM)BC Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-08-2016, 02:48 PM)PrairieMom Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, now you two got me thinking.

What would a "black" Protestant service even look like? Huh?

Well they vary, but I suppose it would just involve sitting around listening to Scripture from the Satanic Bible, a sermon on "doing what thou wilt" and
some Satanic hymns.  Not nearly as spiritually exciting as attempting to mock a re-presentation of Christ's sacrifice on Calvary and inflicting pain on His Sacramental Flesh, however.

Of course though, in a way, the modern "Praise and Worship" that the "non-denominational" Protestants started rocking out in the 60's and 70's ( now fully electric, nightclub strobelight, and hard rockish) resembles something Anton LaVey would be pretty enthusiastic about.

See, I was thinking they would hang around singing heavy metal songs, but then I realize that there's probably Protestant churches that do that anyway...  Crazy!

Although maybe they'd add a little vodka to their grape juice and crackers.  LOL
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