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From the Okie Traditionalist
http://okietraditionalist.blogspot.com/2...op-of.html

This is Fr Chad Rippenger's Society, a society which has numerous threads and videos posted here by Fishies.
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BREAKING NEWS: Newly Ordained Bishop of Tulsa is Reportedly Shutting Down a Traditional Exorcist Society of Priests
  NEWLY Ordained Tulsa Bishop--
Bishop David Konderla--is reportedly shutting down the Society of the Most Sorrowful Mother--a Latin Mass Society of Exorcists Priests.

So here's the Situation:  an anonymous priest of the Diocese of Tulsa has reportedly confirmed this week that Bishop Konderla informed the Society's Superior Fr. Chad Ripperger that he will not permit their Society to continue their work in the Tulsa diocese.

Newly Ordained Bishop David Konderla

This story was first released 2 days ago by The Hirsch Files blog, here LINK & here LINK.  In fact, the Society's website TODAY was tellingly shut down, click HERE

Some Background: The Society of the Most Sorrowful Mother (SMD) was officially founded just last year in March, 2015 by His Excellency Bishop Edward Slattery, by means of a solemn proclamation during a Pontifical High Mass in Tulsa's cathedral. Repeat: solemn proclamation.

The Doloran Father's website describes their mission to:

provide the assistance of the rites and prayers of our Holy Mother, the Church to some of the most spiritually afflicted suffering souls, many unable to find relief or deliverance from their affliction for years.

And even before their official foundation, for several years these priests have provided full-time spiritual direction, counseling, and when necessary--exorcism-- to some of the most spiritually and psychologically afflicted souls of Eastern Oklahoma, with the full support of Bishop Slattery.  (Catholic Encyclopedia on "Exorcism" LINK)

Their Winter 2016 Newsletter shares with joy their approval of being subject to the Ecclesia Dei Commission in Rome, which overseas all religious institutes that celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass.

Their founder, Bishop Slattery, served as Tulsa bishop from 1995 until this June of 2016 after his retirement. He was an open supporter of Pope Benedict XVI's vision for church restoration--especially to restore the Church's ancient Roman liturgy and spiritual traditions. He established 4 Latin Mass communities in the Tulsa diocese:  Clear Creek monastery and convent, the Fraternity of St. Peter parish, and most recently these "Doloran Fathers" as they are affectionately called.

Bishop Edward Slattery.  Described as one of the most dedicated bishops in the world to restoring traditional Catholic liturgy/spirituality.

HOWEVER...

Pope Francis appointed Fr. David Konderla of Austin, Texas to be the new Bishop of Tulsa, Oklahoma on May 16, 2013;  he was ordained a bishop on June 29, 2016.  You may recall my inquisitive blog post "New Tulsa Bishop" CLICK HERE

Just 2 months after becoming a bishop, Bishop Konderla has decided to shut down the SMD Doloran Fathers founded just 1 year earlier by his predecessor.  (I'm pinching myself)


The Most Sorrowful Mother

Assessment: 

All we know for certain AT THE MOMENT is that the new bishop has informed them their foundation no longer has approval to operate in the diocese, and they need to start bringing their apostolate to an end.  Again friends, that is all we know so far.

The Diocese has not yet released an official communique explaining the Exorcist Society's suppression.  My concern is they will be quietly SNUFFED OUT to more effectively bring them to an end.  This would be a victory for Satan and Church Modernists.

Many Catholics in Tulsa continue to seek the spiritual help of these priests.  Many donors and benefactors have helped with the foundation of the Society of the Most Sorrowful Mother.  Several priests have committed their vocations to fighting Satan and giving relief to those tormented by demons.

Recommendation:

Please share this with other concerned Catholics, especially in the Tulsa area. Share it on Facebook.

Let us pray for the Doloran Fathers--the rosary, the St. Michael the Archangel prayer.

Let us voice our concern to the new bishop.


Questions:

Why exactly is Bishop Konderla shutting them down?  Is this final?

How much of his decision is really his decision, vs. that of the "presbyteral council" (i.e. council of diocesan priests)?

Aren't these well-respected priests who have been nothing but Instruments of God's Mercy? 

Are perhaps among the reasons that they celebrate exclusively the Traditional Latin Mass? 

That they take a traditional Catholic attitude to spiritual combat, the devil, and reality of demonic possession?

Is this new bishop starting a program of progressive reform, "Pope Francis-style"? (recall the suppression of the Latin Mass in the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate order just months after the pope's election)

To reverse the traditional influence of his predecessor???

How then will he treat the Clear Creek monks and nuns, Fraternity of St. Peter priests, St. Peter and Paul's Latin Mass community, and other diocesan priests who value Catholic tradition?  Or the laity attached to the traditional Mass?

Conclusion:

As I see it sitting here in my Okie armchair, I'm just reporting necessary facts now openly declared that Catholics of Oklahoma have a right to know about.  For one, the donors and benefactors have a right to know about this development.  But especially the many, many people who have been spiritually and psychologically comforted by these good priests. 

Kyrie eleison.
Interesting. From what I had read about this bishop, he seemed alright. Maybe there is a reason. I suppose you never know these days, but I will wait and see before making any conclusions.
Who knows, there could be more to this story.  I always had a lot of love and respect for Father Ripperger though,even though I've only known of him through sermons online.

This is one more reason why the Roman Catholic Church in its official structures is NOT safe for traditional minded faithful  be they lay or ordained.  The official Church completely changed,most rapidly from the Era of the Council to now.  Anything smacking of preconciliar is unwanted, unappreciated and persecuted. 

It's sad because there is grace within the official structure, it's just a supremely hostile and modernist environment. I guess I'm happy to be about as far on the margins as possible! I don't envy ANY priest who wants to live and teach a traditional style of Catholicism in an institution that officially rejected it's own Patrimony and that doesn't seem to have much of a chance at ever recouping it.

At any rate, pray for some resolution to this for these priests, but be careful, as the devil will be deep in this one and if you seriously pray for it you WILL be a target. Spiritual warfare and the demonic are absolutely real. Trust me.
(09-11-2016, 02:02 PM)formerbuddhist Wrote: [ -> ]This is one more reason why the Roman Catholic Church in its official structures is NOT safe for traditional minded faithful  be they lay or ordained.  The official Church completely changed,most rapidly from the Era of the Council to now.  Anything smacking of preconciliar is unwanted, unappreciated and persecuted. 

I agree wholeheartedly, but to enhance this statement with some clarity: Most all of the more radical changes were not even discussed in the actual Vatican II. It was that satanically inspired "In the Spirit of Vatican II..." that lead to so much egregious and foul changes in the very structure of the Church and the Mass, including the doing away with Latin Mass and removing the Tabernacles from their place of highest honor and facing the priest towards the faithful. It was discussed, but never made mandate by the Counsel,  it was 'adopted', mainly by the American Bishops and followed by the rest of the world in time.

As for this group, perhaps they can reestablish themselves in another Diocese. Are they not reporting to Rome?
We have to remember that the Masonic bishops got rid of exorcists for a specific reason. They don't  really want evil combatted like that, if they even believe  in evil. It was no accident exorcists were taken out of the midst as the clergy embraced rationalism and lost the Faith.

Except for a couple sympathizers, they really don't want Latin mass priests  doing exorcisms. They changed the exorcism ritual to make it worthless on.......purpose..

Those novus ordo trained exorcists priests supposedly being trained recently was just a bone to throw conservatives.

Barring the possibility that Fr. Rippergers group was doing something unseemly, this is yet another reason to disavow hope in the "brick by brick" restoration theory where if only Rome knew about these faithless bishops we'd be ok...

As with the Franciscan friars of the Immaculate, what Modernist Rome gives with one hand, Modernist Rome takes away with the other....

A priest from Texas goes to Oklahoma as the bishop and we expected that to go smoothly?

I'm with FB, there may be more to this story.
(09-11-2016, 06:17 PM)Zedta Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-11-2016, 02:02 PM)formerbuddhist Wrote: [ -> ]This is one more reason why the Roman Catholic Church in its official structures is NOT safe for traditional minded faithful  be they lay or ordained.  The official Church completely changed,most rapidly from the Era of the Council to now.  Anything smacking of preconciliar is unwanted, unappreciated and persecuted. 

I agree wholeheartedly, but to enhance this statement with some clarity: Most all of the more radical changes were not even discussed in the actual Vatican II. It was that satanically inspired "In the Spirit of Vatican II..." that lead to so much egregious and foul changes in the very structure of the Church and the Mass, including the doing away with Latin Mass and removing the Tabernacles from their place of highest honor and facing the priest towards the faithful. It was discussed, but never made mandate by the Counsel,  it was 'adopted', mainly by the American Bishops and followed by the rest of the world in time.

As for this group, perhaps they can reestablish themselves in another Diocese. Are they not reporting to Rome?

I see where you are going in the bolded portion, but that almost doesn't matter. At the end of the day, who cares what the texts say? The modern iconoclasts didn't, and the destruction of the liturgy came at the command of Pope Paul VI, who promulgated all these changes with his full authority. His promulgation of the NO effectively makes that an authoritative interpretation of Vatican II.
What is going on in Oklahoma? Between this and the black 'masses,' something weird is up.  ???
Sir Charles, me not being from your area I have to ask, what are you getting at?
Prayer from Fr. Ripperger's Auxilium Christianorum which seek help for the priests while still requesting protection from repercussions from the evil one which FormerBuddist warns about:

http://www.auxiliumchristianorum.org/dailyprayers.pdf

V. Our help is in the name of the Lord.
R. Who made heaven and earth.
Most gracious Virgin Mary, thou who wouldst crush the head of the
serpent, protect us from the vengeance of the evil one. We offer our prayers,
supplications, sufferings and good works to thee so that thou may purify them,
sanctify them and present them to thy Son as a perfect offering. May this offering
be given so that the demons that influence or seek to influence the members of the
Auxilium Christianorum do not know the source of their expulsion and blindness.
Blind them so that they know not our good works. Blind them so that they know
not on whom to take vengeance. Blind them so that they may receive the just
sentence for their works. Cover us with the Precious Blood of thy Son so that we
may enjoy the protection which flows from His Passion and Death. We ask this
through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.
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