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Apparently, he died October 23rd.  Say a prayer for this poor man's soul.

http://www.chick.com/information/Jack-Chick/
It would appear that the time for praying for this man who dedicated His life to slandering and attacking the Bride of Christ, having passed into and received his judgement, is now over. 

St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Suppl. Q. 71, A. 5: “Gregory says (Moral xxxiv. 19): There is the same reason for not praying then (namely after the judgment day) for men condemned to everlasting fire, as there is now for not praying for the devil and has angels who are sentenced to eternal punishment, and for this reason the saints do not pray for dead unbelieving and wicked men, because, forsooth, knowing them to be already condemned to eternal punishment, they shrink from pleading for them by the merit of their prayers before they are summoned to the presence of the Judge.”

St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Suppl. Q. 71, A. 5: “Further, the text (iv. Sent. D. 45) quotes the words of Augustine (De Verb. Apost. Serm. Xxxii): ‘If a man depart this life without the faith that worketh by charity and its sacraments, in vain do his friends have recourse to such acts of kindness[prayers and suffrages for him].’ Now all the damned come under that head.  Therefore suffrages profit them not.”

As Pope Pelagius II, A.D. 578-590 stated: "We can no more pray for a deceased infidel than we can for the devil, since they are condemned to the same eternal and irrevocable damnation." (Dialogues, IV).

St. Francis Xavier, Nov. 5, 1549: “The corsair who commanded our vessel died here at Cagoxima.  He did his work for us, on the whole, as we wished… He himself chose to die in his own superstitions; he did not even leave us the power of rewarding him by that kindness which we can after death do to other friends who die in the profession of the Christian faith, in commending their souls to God, since the poor fellow by his own hand cast his soul into hell, where there is no redemption.” (The Life and Letters of St. Francis Xavier by Henry James Coleridge, S.J.Originally published:London: Burns and Oates, 1874 Second Reprint, New Delhi: Asian Educational Services, 2004, Vol. 2, p. 281.)
What a legacy. He spent his life spreading lies and hatred about Jesus' most precious gift to us, and sought to draw them away from the only source of salvation.  He was given 92 years on this earth to save his soul and to help others do the same, and squandered it. What a waste.
(11-05-2016, 12:27 PM)Credidi Propter Wrote: [ -> ]What a legacy. He spent his life spreading lies and hatred about Jesus' most precious gift to us, and sought to draw them away from the only source of salvation.  He was given 92 years on this earth to save his soul and to help others do the same, and squandered it. What a waste.

It is bad enough to have wasted one's life (which most of us do to some extent), but to have the weight and responsibility of the damnation of thousands and thousands of souls adding to one's own sufferings for all eternity is beyond the level of horror the human mind can wrap itself around in.  Let's pray the Blessed Mother will soon one day vanquish Protestantism once and for all so all for the sake of those trapped in it.
(11-05-2016, 01:01 PM)BC Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-05-2016, 12:27 PM)Credidi Propter Wrote: [ -> ]What a legacy. He spent his life spreading lies and hatred about Jesus' most precious gift to us, and sought to draw them away from the only source of salvation.  He was given 92 years on this earth to save his soul and to help others do the same, and squandered it. What a waste.

It is bad enough to have wasted one's life (which most of us do to some extent), but to have the weight and responsibility of the damnation of thousands and thousands of souls adding to one's own sufferings for all eternity is beyond the level of horror the human mind can wrap itself around in.  Let's pray the Blessed Mother will soon one day vanquish Protestantism once and for all so all for the sake of those trapped in it.

I just remembered finding this beautiful prayer some time ago. "Rejoice, O Virgin Mary, for thou alone have destroyed all heresies. Thou believed the word of the Archangel Gabriel. A virgin still, thou brought forth the God-man; thou bore a Child, O Virgin, and remained a Virgin still. Mother of God, intercede for us."
Well, seeing how none of us knew the man personally, and none of us knows what was in his heart when he died, I think it's appropriate to pray for him. There is no sin in that, and it would be the merciful thing to do. For all we know, the spent the last days or hours of his life regretting what he did.
If anyone here concludes or judges this man or anyone at that to have certainty gone to Hell, then that presumes there was a judgement that the person was certainly in the state of mortal sin at the moment of death. This, his internal forum, can not be known without a special revelation of God. Furthermore, Fr.  Garrigou-Lagrange wrote that if a man judges another person of being in a state of mortal sin, he also commits a mortal sin (given that there is full knowledge/sufficient reflection and full deliberation).

And if he is in Hell, it's partly because no one prayed or fasted or offered sacrifices for him when he was alive as we are called to do.

In all truth, my sins were worst then this man's. May God have mercy on him as He did me; and may Jesus Christ pour His Precious Blood over this man as He has me.
(11-05-2016, 01:01 PM)BC Wrote: [ -> ]Let's pray the Blessed Mother will soon one day vanquish Protestantism once and for all so all for the sake of those trapped in it.

You mean we aren't supposed to "celebrate the gifts of the Reformation"?  Grin

May God have mercy on him and grant consolation -- and wisdom -- to his family.

We can't judge this man's soul at ALL. That is for Christ, and Christ alone. Prayers are in order. If he is in Hell, those prayers wont' be wasted, but will go to those in Purgatory.

Very sad. He could've done so much good in the world, but squandered it.

(11-05-2016, 08:37 PM)PDUBYA222 Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone here concludes or judges this man or anyone at that to have certainty gone to Hell, then that presumes there was a judgement that the person was certainly in the state of mortal sin at the moment of death. This, his internal forum, can not be known without a special revelation of God. Furthermore, Fr.  Garrigou-Lagrange wrote that if a man judges another person of being in a state of mortal sin, he also commits a mortal sin (given that there is full knowledge/sufficient reflection and full deliberation).

And if he is in Hell, it's partly because no one prayed or fasted or offered sacrifices for him when he was alive as we are called to do.

In all truth, my sins were worst then this man's. May God have mercy on him as He did me; and may Jesus Christ pour His Precious Blood over this man as He has me.

We do not judge the internal forum for anyone. That is for Christ alone.

In the external forum, however, malice is presumed by the Church unless there is evidence to the contrary. This man, in the external forum lived and died as a heretic. A formal and notorious one at that if there ever was one.

St Robert Bellarmine, De Romano Pontifice, lib. IV, c. 9, no. 15.: “For men are not bound, or able to read hearts; BUT WHEN THEY SEE THAT SOMEONE IS A HERETIC BY HIS EXTERNAL WORKS, THEY JUDGE HIM TO BE A HERETIC PURE AND SIMPLE, AND CONDEMN HIM AS A HERETIC.”

Catholics of all time had no qualms stating those who died as heretics with no evidence of last minute conversion were lost.

Pope Gregory XVI, Summo Iugiter Studio (# 2), May 27, 1832:“Finally some of these misguided people attempt to persuade themselves and others that men are not saved only in the Catholic religion, but that even heretics may attain eternal life.

Saint Fulgentius (died A.D. 533): "Hold most firmly and never doubt at all that not only pagans, but also all Jews, all heretics, and all schismatics who finish this life outside of the Catholic Church, will go into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels." (Enchiridion Patristicum)

St. Jane Frances Frémoit de Chantal (+1641) was born at Dijon in Burgundy, of noble parents, and from her childhood gave clear signs of her future great sanctity. It was said that when only five years of age she put to silence a Calvinist nobleman by substantial arguments far beyond her age, and when he offered her a little present she immediately threw it into the fire, saying:  “This is how heretics will burn in hell, because they do not believe Christ when He speaks.”" (The Liturgical Year –Volume 13)

You speak of your sins being worse than this man.

The sins of a Catholic, no matter how great, still leave one eligible for salvation if there is repentance before death. This is not comparable to heresy however, the worst of sins, as without the Catholic Faith one can never be saved. 

Aquinas, Summa Theologica, II II, Q.5, A.3). "The unbelief of heretics, who confess their belief in the Gospel and resist that faith by corrupting it, is a more grievous sin than that of the heathens, because the heathens have not accepted the faith in any way at all. Hence, the unbelief of heretics is the worst sin." - (Summa Theologica II-II, Q.10, art.3, ff; art.6).

St. Peter Julian Eymard, 1868 : "People often say:'it is better to be a good Protestant than a bad Catholic.'  That is not true! That would mean one could be saved without the true faith.  No. A bad Catholic remains a child of the family, though a prodigal, and, however great a sinner he may be, nearer to God than a Protestant, for he is a member of the household, whereas, the heretic is not. And how hard is it to make him become one!" (The Real Presence p.245)

It is true we Catholics do not go around stating certain non Catholic individuals by name are in Hell. However, the general presumption is they are lost, given the extreme rarity of grace given for last minute conversion to non Catholics without the necessary Faith, let alone bad Catholics, according to the revelation of the saints.

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