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Chief Exorcist Father Amorth: Padre Pio Knew The Third Secret

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Father Gabriele Amorth
In a recent article on the Secret of Fatima, Steve Skojec, the founder and editor of OnePeterFive, published, to my knowledge, for the first time in the English language words from Rome’s chief exorcist, Father Gabriele Amorth (d. 2016), about Padre Pio and his knowledge of the Third Secret of Fatima. They come from a newly published book written by José María Zavala, entitled The Best Kept Secret of Fatima (El Sécreto Mejor Guardado de Fátima). OnePeterFive‘s contributor, Mr. Andrew Guernsey, was very helpful in finding these quotes. Since Mr. Skojec’s own article is somewhat lengthy, many readers may not have realized the importance of this interview with Father Amorth, which was only to be published after the priest’s death. In the following, I shall quote extensively from Steve’s own post which first speaks about Father Amorth’s own conviction that the specific Consecration of Russia has not yet taken place, and then enters into the larger discussion about Fatima:
Quote:It [a piece of the Fatima puzzle] came in the form of an interview with the very famous (and now deceased) Roman exorcist, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, also conducted by José María Zavala. Fr. Amorth personally knew Saint (Padre) Pio for 26 years, and it is from this towering figure of 20th century Catholic sanctity that he claims to have learned the contents of the Third Secret of Fatima.
Fr. Amorth was interviewed by Zavala in 2011, who kept the interview secret until after the exorcist’s death, publishing it for the first time in his book about Fatima. In the interview, Fr. Amorth relates — as he has done elsewhere — that he does not believe the consecration of the world by Pope John Paul II in 1984 was sufficient to satisfy the requirements set forth by Our Lady.
“There was no such consecration then,” he [Father Amorth] says. “I witnessed the act. I was in St. Peter’s Square that Sunday afternoon, very close to the Pope; so close, I could almost touch him.”
Pressed by Zavala as to why he so forcefully believes that the consecration was not done, Fr. Amorth replied: “Very simple: John Paul II wanted to mention Russia expressly, but in the end he did not.”
Zavala pressed the issue with Fr. Amorth, saying that Sister Lucia herself (as mentioned above) had said that Heaven had accepted the consecration. He describes an incredulous reaction from Fr. Amorth. “Lucia said that…?” He asked. Zavala continues:
“Well, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone said it, in the year 2000, hiding behind a letter [escudándose en una carta] from Lucia dated November 1989, in which she stated that Heaven had admitted consecration in spite of one of the most important conditions.
“Have you seen that letter?” He asks, as if conducting a police interrogation in search of evidence.
“Never,” I say flatly.
“I do not think you’ll ever see it, because I’m convinced that Lucia did not write it.”
“How are you so sure of that?”
“Why didn’t Bertone show it when he should have, when he announced the Third Secret of Fatima? A simple photocopy of the manuscript, included in the official dossier of the Vatican, would have been sufficient to dispel any doubt. If the Vatican has always been scrupulous in providing the documentary proof that authenticated the information by Lucia on minor matters, what reason would they have to skimp on the only documentary evidence that, according to Bertone, validated a fact that without doubt was of as much importance as the consecration performed by John Paul II?
“Yes, it’s weird,” I admit.
“You really think Lucia took five years to write that the consecration had been truly accepted? And that Bertone waited no less than sixteen years to announce the validity of something so crucial as the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary?” Father Amorth’s voice sounds like dry leaves.
“It’s all very strange, in truth.” I [Zavala] nod again.
“Moreover,” he adds, “if the consecration of the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary made by Pius XII in 1942 was only partially accepted [because he did not specifically mention Russia – ed], for Jesus said that in view of it the war would only be shortened rather than finished immediately, why would He now change his mind with John Paul II, if Russia was not mentioned on this occasion?”
“It would be an incongruity, yes.”
“Rather.”
“So…?”
“I have no doubt that the consecration did not occur on the terms required by the Virgin. But we must not lose sight of what she herself wanted to tell us through Lucia: ‘In the end My Heart Immaculate will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me and it will become [come to be], [thereby] granting itself to the world a time of peace’…”
The interview digresses here from the topic of Fatima, but Zavala returns to it again later:
Forgive me for insisting on the Third Secret of Fatima: Did Padre Pio relate it, then, to the loss of faith within the Church?”
Fr. Gabriele furrows his brow and sticks out his chin. He seems very affected.
“Indeed,” he states, “One day Padre Pio said to me very sorrowfully: ‘You know, Gabriele? It is Satan who has been introduced into the bosom of the Church and within a very short time will come to rule a false Church.’”
“Oh my God! Some kind of Antichrist! When did he prophesy this to you?” I [Zavala] ask.
“It must have been about 1960, since I was already a priest then.”
“Was that why John XXIII had such a panic about publishing the Third Secret of Fatima, so that the people wouldn’t think that he was the anti-pope or whatever it was …?”
A slight but knowing smile curls the lips of Father Amorth.
Did Padre Pio say anything else to you about future catastrophes: earthquakes, floods, wars, epidemics, hunger …? Did he allude to the same plagues prophesied in the Holy Scriptures?” [asks Mr. Zavala]
Nothing of the sort mattered to him, however terrifying they proved to be, except for the great apostasy within the Church. This was the issue that really tormented him and for which he prayed and offered a great part of his suffering, crucified out of love.” [says Fr. Amorth]
The Third Secret of Fatima?”
Exactly.
“Is there any way to avoid something so terrible, Fr. Gabriele?”
There is hope, but it’s useless if it’s not accompanied by works. Let us begin by consecrating Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, let us recite the Holy Rosary, let us all do prayer and penance …”  [emphasis added]
Thus ends Steve Skojec’s own presentation of certain passages of the new Zavala book on Fatima.
Father Amorth is a witness here to what Padre Pio – whom he first met when he himself was a seventeen-year-old young man – told him directly and personally. Father Amorth states in that same interview that Padre Pio even let him sometimes read his own spiritual diary.
As we reported earlier, Father Amorth had also already stated during his lifetime that he did not believe that the Consecration of Russia has taken place (a statement which was just confirmed by Cardinal Paul Josef Cordes). In December of 2015, Father Amorth had said:
Quote:The Consecration has not yet been made. I was there on March 25 [1984] in St. Peter’s Square, I was in the front row, practically within touching distance of the Holy Father. [Pope] John Paul II wanted to consecrate Russia, but his entourage did not, fearing that the Orthodox would be antagonized, and they almost thwarted him. Therefore, when His Holiness consecrated the world on his knees, he added a sentence not included in the distributed version that instead said to consecrate “especially those nations of which you yourself have asked for their consecration.” So, indirectly, this included Russia. However, a specific consecration has not yet been made. You can always do it. Indeed, it will certainly be done…
As with other spiritual sons of Padre Pio – Dr. Ingo Dollinger and Father Luigi Villa, for example – it seems that Padre Pio is still effectively with us, working through those whom he met and guided while still on earth. It seems to be part of his legacy to help us in these difficult times. Let us then pray to Padre Pio of Pietrelcina and ask for his intercession!
I love Padre Pio. A true man of God.
(08-02-2017, 09:37 AM)Goatee Wrote: [ -> ]I love Padre Pio. A true man of God.

Yes indeed! One of my favorite, and often prayed to for intercession, saints. His intercession is powerful and effective!
Fr. Gabriele furrows his brow and sticks out his chin. He seems very affected.

“Indeed,” he states, “One day Padre Pio said to me very sorrowfully: ‘You know, Gabriele? It is Satan who has been introduced into the bosom of the Church and within a very short time will come to rule a false Church.’”


Well then, how about that......
(08-02-2017, 08:02 PM)BC Wrote: [ -> ]Fr. Gabriele furrows his brow and sticks out his chin. He seems very affected.

“Indeed,” he states, “One day Padre Pio said to me very sorrowfully: ‘You know, Gabriele? It is Satan who has been introduced into the bosom of the Church and within a very short time will come to rule a false Church.’”


Well then, how about that......

Ya, that stuck out to me too. It would seem that prognostication of St. Pio has come true!
Im more skeptical about padre pio. If he was such a powerful mystic, why did he do nothing to denounce the new mass and new religion? If he was such an anti freemason, and freemasonry was supposedly subverting the church, why didnt he let anybody know openly? Sure sure, obedience was so important back then, but what about the truth? The highest good in the Christian West is to speak the truth. If Padre Pio didnt know that, then I would question his value as a posterboy for tradition.
(08-03-2017, 02:31 PM)charlesh Wrote: [ -> ]Im more skeptical about padre pio. If he was such a powerful mystic, why did he do nothing to denounce the new mass and new religion? If he was such an anti freemason, and freemasonry was supposedly subverting the church, why didnt he let anybody know openly? Sure sure, obedience was so important back then, but what about the truth? The highest good in the Christian West is to speak the truth. If Padre Pio didnt know that, then I would question his value as a posterboy for tradition.

Please allow me to enlighten you:





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Padre Pio and the Freemason


Posted on March 1, 2015 by Patrick
Padre Pio and the Freemason
By Father Pascal P. Parente, S.T.D., Ph.D., J.B.C.
A well-known attorney of Genoa, Comm. Cesare Festa, a first cousin of Dr. G. Festa of Rome, former mayor of Arenzano and one of the most prominent Freemasons of Genoa, was one of the first conquests of Padre Pio’s kindness and zeal. Dr. G. Festa had often exhorted his cousin to abandon Freemasonry and to return to the Church, but to no avail. When he became acquainted with Padre Pio, he spoke about the Padre to his cousin Cesare. One day, out of curiosity, Cesare left Genoa and traveled all the way south to San Giovanni Rotondo.
“What, you here? You, who are a Freemason?” exclaimed Padre Pio the moment he laid eyes on the newcomer.
“Yes, Father,” said Cesare.
“And what is your intention as a Freemason?”
“To fight against the Church from a political point of view.”
Padre Pio smiled, took his visitor’s hand and with extreme kindness began to tell him the story of the Prodigal Son. That same day Cesare went down on his knees before Padre Pio and made his confession, the first in twenty-five years. The next morning he received Holy Communion.
For a few days he remained with the Padre to strengthen his soul for the ordeal that lay ahead. Padre Pio advised him to wait before announcing his official break with the Freemasons. After a few months he returned again to see the Padre, and this time he stopped in Rome to tell his cousin, Dr. Festa, of his conversion and change of heart.
When an Italian pilgrimage to Lourdes was organized under the leadership of Archbishop Achille Ratti of Milan (later Pope Pius XI), Cesare decided to offer his services to the invalid pilgrims, both on the train and later at the hotel. This fact soon became known, and the Socialist paper Avanti and similar sheets let loose a violent attack under a big headline: “A Freemason at Lourdes!”
Cesare was immediately requested to explain his actions. His answer was brief and to the point. At Lourdes, he said, he had admired not so much the restoration of bodily health as the miracles of faith. A new storm followed, because, officially, he was still a member of the brotherhood. As he was preparing to go to the last meeting of the Lodge to break all ties with Freemasonry, he received a most encouraging letter from Padre Pio.
“Never be ashamed of Christ or of His doctrine. It is time to fight with open face. May the Giver of all blessings grant you the needed strength!”
These words, coming at such a critical moment, gave Cesare the necessary courage. He went to the Lodge and there, with great fervor of spirit, spoke openly of Christ, the Saviour of the world, of His doctrine, His Church, and of his own supreme happiness in returning to them. Then he officially presented his resignation from office and broke all ties with the sect.
All this took place during November, 1921. The following Christmas Cesare was in Rome with his cousin, Dr. Festa. There the former Freemason was to be seen in the garb of a Franciscan Tertiary, walking in the procession of the Bambino in the church of Ara Coeli, a lighted candle in his hand. Three days later he was received in an audience by Pope Benedict XV, to whom he described his conversion through the good offices of Padre Pio.
“Yes,” said the Pope, “Padre Pio is truly a man of God; some have doubts about him, but you will help to make him better known.”
Only half a block away from the Capuchin monastery in San Giovanni Rotondo is a book shop, owned by a distinguished photographer, Signor Federico Abresch. A German by birth and a former Protestant, he has long been a convert to the Catholic Faith. However, his conversation made at the time of his marriage to a Catholic girl had really been rather a formality than a sincere change of mind on his part.
In 1928 Signor Abresch came from Bologna, where he had a photographic studio, to visit Padre Pio. Kneeling down for confession, he simply expressed his unbelief, saying that he regarded confession as a good social institution and no more, not a divine means of grace.
Padre Pio looked at him with an expression of extreme pain. “Heresy! All your Communions have been sacrilegious!” he exclaimed. “You need a general confession. Examine your conscience. Jesus was more merciful to you than to Judas.” And with these words he dismissed him.
The poor man felt terribly confused, for he was unable to remember the last time he had made a good confession since entering the Church. When he returned to Padre Pio again, he explained his plight as best he could. Then, very kindly, Padre Pio told him what he could not remember. He had made his last good confession when he had returned from his wedding trip, something which the friar could never have known through natural means.
It was exactly so, as Signor Abresch now remembered the circumstances of that confession. From this point on, Padre Pio began to enumerate the other sins of commission and omission of the penitent before him, concluding with these words: “You have glorified Satan, and Jesus in His boundless love broke His neck for you!”
Signor Abresch then received his penance and absolution, and with them such a joy and happiness that he felt like a new person. From then on he went to daily Mass and Communion, and finally became a Franciscan Tertiary.
“I believe now,” he writes, “not only all the dogmas of the Catholic Church but even her smallest ceremonies. And I feel that if anybody should attempt to take this Faith from me, he could only take my life!”
Signor Abresch and his family, like so many other converts of Padre Pio, wished one thing more — to be able to live near the Padre. Those who cannot afford a move to San Giovanni Rotondo are satisfied with frequent visits there; those who can, settle down in the shadow of the Monastery of Our Lady of Grace — which explains the presence of Signor Abresch in San Giovanni Rotondo today. Most of the photographs published in this book are his property, and he has kindly permitted us to use them. He must exercise great skill to secure these photos, especially those taken during Mass, because Padre Pio never poses and will never knowingly allow anyone to take his picture.
Dr. Angelo M. Merla was one of the doctors who assisted Dr. Festa in the operation performed on Padre Pio which we have already described. He had been an unbeliever, and for thirty years had stayed away from the Church. Padre Pio brought him back to the Sacraments and to regular religious practices. He made his First Communion at the same time as his little daughter. Today, in his office, Dr. Merla often shows people a thermometer which broke when he tried to take the extraordinary temperatures of Padre Pio. (These, at times, reach 120 degrees Fahrenheit.)
Concerning other conversions brought about by Padre Pio, Dr. G. Festa relates that he saw, with his own eyes, how a young Jew knelt before Padre Pio one day and said: “Padre, I won’t leave there until you baptize me!” He had come to San Giovanni Rotondo out of curiosity; he went home a Christian.




and just one more article, of many:



Quote:Padre Pio & Fr. Villa


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Almost sixty years ago, “Padre Pio first met Father Luigi Villa, whom he entreated to devote his entire life to fight Ecclesiastical Freemasonry. Padre Pio told Father Villa that Our Lord had designs upon him and had chosen him to be educated and trained to fight Freemasonry within the Church. The Saint spelled out this task in three meetings with Father Villa, which took place in the last fifteen years of life of Padre Pio. At the close of the second meeting [second half of 1963], Padre Pio embraced Father Villa three times, saying to him: ‘Be brave, now…for the Church has already been invaded by Freemasonry!’ and then stated: ‘Freemasonry has already made it into the loafers (shoes) of the Pope!’ At the time, the reigning Pope was Paul VI.
 
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Pope Paul VI speaking at the UN

“The mission entrusted to Father Luigi Villa by Padre Pio to fight Freemasonry within the Catholic Church was approved by Pope Pius XII who gave a Papal Mandate for his work. Pope Pius XII’s Secretary of State, Cardinal Tardini, gave Father Villa three Cardinals to work with and to act as his own personal ‘guardian angels’:
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Cardinal Ottaviani

Cardinal Ottaviani, Cardinal Parente and Cardinal Palazzini. Father Villa worked with these three cardinals until their deaths.”
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Cardinal Parente


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Cardinal Palazzini


In order to fight this battle, in 1971 Fr. Villa founded his magazine, “Chiesa viva” with
correspondents and collaborators in every continent.  It was immediately attacked by the upper echelon of the Catholic Church: the magazine was ostracized among the clergy and its collaborators were gradually forced to leave.  Then they isolated its Director and his few remaining collaborators.  The efforts to silence “Chiesa viva” once and for all also included seven assassination attempts on Fr. Villa!” 


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Chiesa viva's #413 "Our Lady Condemns Masonry" 
 
  -  Then, came the isolation – [a betrayal]: one after the other, the collaborators and correspondents left and Father Villa remained alone.”
   - Then came the silence and the password: “Ignore him!” and “Make him ignored”!
  -   Then came the assassination attempts on his life:
  -    In Paris,  he received a blow square in his face with an iron fist which displaced his jaw and shattered all his teeth, and since then Father Villa hasn’t a single tooth in his mouth.
  -    On a mission to Haiti, instead, he found himself completely naked waiting to be shot. He saved himself just at the last minute.
  -  “Slanders” followed, and the most frequent were “Fascist” and “anti-Semite.”
    For the “Fascist” slander it should be noted that Father Villa was condemned to death by the Fascist Justice Minister, Farinacci, and he escaped the execution jumping from the window of the Combonian House in Crema (an Italian town close to Brescia) when the director informed him that the firing-squad jeep was nearing  the house.  
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A gravely serious Padre Pio



For the “anti-Semite” slander, instead, it must be noted as well, that with three journeys in the mountains along the border between Italy and Switzerland, Father Villa saved the lives of 57 Jews, risking his own life. In fact, every time he returned, he had to face an airplane that was patrolling the borders, and machine-gunned him until he threw himself on the ground pretending to be shot.

“But through all of these attempts at silencing him, Father Villa has never given up his commitment to Padre Pio. Therefore, his life has been studded by seven assassination attempts, which, fortunately, didn’t have the desired results.” And at 93 years old, Father Luigi Villa continues his battle with the Church's enemies - as Padre Pio directed: "Fight to the end..." Just as Padre Pio did- to the last...  
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Even Padre Pio's Last Mass was a battle for him!
 
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Padre Pio's wake
In addition to the monthly magazine, Father Villa has written scores of books pertaining to this subject.  In fact, it is well to note that Father Villa has been given numerous awards for his superb journalism.  One of his latest was the “Journalistic International Prize INARS” awarded to him for the thousands of articles he has published, for the books he has written and for his commitment, as Director of “Chiesa viva”, always writing in defense of Europe’s Christian roots and in preservation of the historical truth’s against the forces alien to our civilization.”

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Our Lady of Purity - Madonna which hung over Padre Pio's bed

Our Lady of Purity pray for us!!!  Feast day = October 16th

For more on the story of Fr. Luigi Villa -
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"Chi Don Luigi Villa?"



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French "Qui est l'abbe Luigi Villa?"

You really should do more research before you condemn Padre Pio. He had his limitations. He was a Monk and was constrained in what he could say, but in close contact with him, his Traditionalist viewpoint was quite appearent as were his anti Freemason stances.
(08-03-2017, 02:31 PM)charlesh Wrote: [ -> ]Im more skeptical about padre pio. If he was such a powerful mystic, why did he do nothing to denounce the new mass and new religion? If he was such an anti freemason, and freemasonry was supposedly subverting the church, why didnt he let anybody know openly? Sure sure, obedience was so important back then, but what about the truth? The highest good in the Christian West is to speak the truth. If Padre Pio didnt know that, then I would question his value as a posterboy for tradition.

What "new religion?" The Church today is the same Church.

I'm skeptical that St. Pio of Pietrelcina ever said any of the things mentioned.
(08-03-2017, 04:20 PM)LaudeturIesus Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-03-2017, 02:31 PM)charlesh Wrote: [ -> ]Im more skeptical about padre pio. If he was such a powerful mystic, why did he do nothing to denounce the new mass and new religion? If he was such an anti freemason, and freemasonry was supposedly subverting the church, why didnt he let anybody know openly? Sure sure, obedience was so important back then, but what about the truth? The highest good in the Christian West is to speak the truth. If Padre Pio didnt know that, then I would question his value as a posterboy for tradition.

What "new religion?" The Church today is the same Church.

I'm skeptical that St. Pio of Pietrelcina ever said any of the things mentioned.
No, the Church has changed a lot since the Council VATII and the Pope Francis intends to change Her much more: He said recently that "he wants to make the Church UNRECOGNIZABLE."
Frightening!
No, the church bears no resemblance to the church before Vatican II. It is a new religion from top to bottom. That is self evident.
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