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I am a Roman Catholic from India and unfortunately, in our country all Traditional Catholic movements have been suppressed... I stay next to a Catholic parish which is heavily steeped into the "Vatican II" ideals - liberalism, modernism, religious indifferentism, pagan infiltration into Church practices (considering the fact that India is a Hindu-majority country and in order to please the Hindus and fundamentalist groups - the clergy in India had come up with a Hinduized rite of Catholic Mass (now abrogated due to lack of interest)). To add to all the woes, "Catholics" in India don't seem to give a damn to Catholicism or Catholic Traditions but, care a lot for ethnic and pagan traditions all of a sudden...!

At the same time, I feel a call to be a part of the various associations such as the "Legionaries of Mary", Catholic prayer groups, etc... Rest of the associations are more into feminism and social justice pressure groups who are more into criticizing our country's patriarchical male-dominant society, the incumbent government and Mr. Prime Minister (ad hominem attacks as to why he did not consummate his marriage, etc...?‍♂️) I'm not interested to be associated with such liberal pressure groups at all...

But yeah, I want to be a part of parish activities... But, no TLM, no Traditional-leaning Catholics, lack of frequent confessions available and Novus Ordo Masses full of distractions, combined with all the problems stated above is what describes our parish...

What should I do...? I'm getting frequent headaches thinking about this...

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Have you thought about organizing a group of like-minded people? I know the SSPX is active in India, and would probably respond to your request if you can gather a small group of interested persons.
I am highly afraid to think of doing that...

For the Indian Catholic clergy, Pope Francis and Vatican II have been the greatest things that have ever happened in the history of the Catholic Church. And mostly all the Catholics are in open support of liberal Catholicism (not only from our parish but all the Catholic Unions in our country)... The situation is as bad as that in Ireland...

And yeah, though the clergy put a façade of being "open", "merciful", "considerate", etc., etc., we can't dare to antagonize them... The clergy has literally branded "Lefebrvists" as "lunatics"... And my Parish Priest is one of them...

He has made the lives of many Catholics involved with the SSPX miserable and disparaged them...

So, I don't have any option but to stick with my current parish else I would lose my religion....

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Sadly you will need to offer your suffering up to God for the time being. I would say that if you are in India (a land of a billion people), you sure that there is no way you can use the power of the Internet to find like-minded Indians and work together to form a TLM nearby or somewhere?
(01-22-2018, 07:16 AM)AndreasIosephus Wrote: [ -> ]I am highly afraid to think of doing that...

For the Indian Catholic clergy, Pope Francis and Vatican II have been the greatest things that have ever happened in the history of the Catholic Church. And mostly all the Catholics are in open support of liberal Catholicism (not only from our parish but all the Catholic Unions in our country)... The situation is as bad as that in Ireland...

And yeah, though the clergy put a façade of being "open", "merciful", "considerate", etc., etc., we can't dare to antagonize them... The clergy has literally branded "Lefebrvists" as "lunatics"... And my Parish Priest is one of them...

He has made the lives of many Catholics involved with the SSPX miserable and disparaged them...

So, I don't have any option but to stick with my current parish else I would lose my religion....

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Maybe I am missing something, but why would the disparagement and calumny of the poorly formed clergy cause you to abandon seeking properly formed clergy?

If anything, I would think that the worse one's situation was, the more one would want to seek out Traditional priests, whatever the consequences.
Would the Syro-Malabar or Syra-Malankara Rites be an option ?
Let me tell you what I've done. Whilst it's true that I now live in a very Tradition friendly Diocese, with reverent, according to the rubrics, beautiful NO Masses, and solid, orthodox Catholic preaching from the pulpit, it has not always been so. For almost 20 years I lived in a Parish that had been wreckovated by the Pastor, a hale and hearty, athletic sort who sat on his 'Presider's Throne' whilst laypeople (mostly women) distributed Holy Communion. I heard him preach on every left-wing SJW subject you can think of. One time I confessed immediately before Mass, and by Communion time, I was so angry at the abuses taking place that I could not receive.

So what did I do? I confessed regularly. I went to Mass every week, and daily if my schedule permitted it. I sat in the back pew and said my Rosary or recited my (1962) Breviary, trying not to look at the Altar except at the Elevations. I paid as little attention as possible to the heretical swill being spouted from the pulpit.

Early on was pre-'Trad Internet', so I made sure that I had solid reading from Trad papers and magazines. I continued to study Traditionally theology and Church history. I found, and made friends with, the most conservative/Traditional leaning people in the Parish. I was a thorn in the side of the 'Respect Life Committee' who never discussed life issues, but were big on furthering the communist revolution in Latin America.

When the internet grew, I found Traditional websites, magazines, reviews, etc. (and FishEaters!!!) online and continued  my reading. I managed to maintain my faith and grow as a Traditionalist despite it all. I like to think that God is rewarding me by leading me to the Diocese of Lincoln where, by His grace, I expect to die in the authentic Catholic Faith.
(01-22-2018, 03:36 AM)AndreasIosephus Wrote: [ -> ]I am a Roman Catholic from India and unfortunately, in our country all Traditional Catholic movements have been suppressed...

A good friend of mine is an SSPX priest in India, and tells me that they operate at 15 Mass centers throughout India, one of which is an orphanage and school, operated by sister who care for abandoned children and adults. Some only very occasionally have Mass, but I would hardly say that means that in India "all Traditional Catholic movements have been supressed."

There is Sunday Mass ever Sunday in : Chennai, Goa, Palayamkottai, Mumbai (both Malad and Vasai), Nagercoil, Singamparai, Christurajapuram, Trichy, and Tuticorin. That's eleven places to get a traditional Mass each Sunday throughout India.

Coonor gets two Masses on consecutive weekdays once a month. Bangalore gets an occasional Mass. Asaripalam get a Mass once a month on the first Sunday.

It certain may be possible you are nowhere near such sites, but there is a lively and active traditional movement in India.

I appreciate that you want "want to be a part of parish activities" and "feel a call to be a part of the various associations such as the 'Legionaries of Mary,' Catholic prayer groups, etc.," but to what end.

You mention that the SSPX faithful are actively persecuted by the hierarchy and clergy. Perhaps that's for a good reason, if they are as liberal and awful as you suggest.

So if you want the traditional Mass and Sacraments as much as it sounds you do, why not suffer what you need to suffer to get these?

What is it you are seeking out? Peace, ease? Parish activities? Tradition? The good of your soul?
(01-22-2018, 07:16 AM)AndreasIosephus Wrote: [ -> ]And yeah, though the clergy put a façade of being "open", "merciful", "considerate", etc., etc., we can't dare to antagonize them... The clergy has literally branded "Lefebrvists" as "lunatics"... And my Parish Priest is one of them...

He has made the lives of many Catholics involved with the SSPX miserable and disparaged them...

So, I don't have any option but to stick with my current parish else I would lose my religion....

You do have an option, you just don't want to take it.

If your parish priest is as terrible as you suggest, and calls good Catholic priests and faithful who are quite literally giving up everything to have the Faith (including apparently a good name), then perhaps it is not the SSPX you should be avoiding ...
Are there any un-latinized Syro-Malabar or Malankara parishes close to you?  Do any of them adhere to the authentic Syriac tradition?  If possible, I would suggest going to those in preference to a traditional Latin parish.  The Syriac rite and spirituality is part of the patrimony of India - don't let it be wiped out if you can help it!  The Latin church didn't mind suppressing it when Portugal colonized Kerala, it is not good that the Latins should have a greater foothold in India than the Syriac churches, as they would cry foul if an Eastern rite ever poached away its own people in the West.  I'm sorry to say it, but some traditional Latin Catholics are very chauvinist about their rite.  Perhaps a strong Syro-Malabar church could absorb the lax Roman parishes into it one day.
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